Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Oxymoron of the Month Award

Liberty University to stay gun free... [More]
I'm sure the irony escapes them.

[Via Jeffersonian]
Posted by David Codrea at 3/11/2009 11:03:00 AM

8 comments:

Newbius said...

David,

I find it interesting that the article mentions Utah's pre-emption laws for public universities. Liberty University is a PRIVATE, faith-centered university founded by Jerry Falwell. Even if the Commonwealth of Virginia enacted a pre-emption law regarding public universities, it would not affect Liberty.

It appears that facts and context are no longer considered relevant to mainstream journalism any longer.

Pax,

Newbius

3/11/2009 12:14 PM
Anonymous said...

I must have missed something. What does the Utah law have to do with Virginia anyway?

A private enterprise has, and must continue to have every right to make this determination for itself. Those who do not like their rules do not have to be there.

We can certainly disagree with this school, and protest their decision, but any effort to force them to abide by our wishes will diminish the rights of everyone on their own property.

We must each vote with our feet and our wallets. Do not go to places that prohibit your defensive tool, and don't send your children to them either.

If everyone who cared about their rights would do that, I suspect the problem would shortly be solved. And then again.... maybe not. But we'd have a lot more solid ground on which to stand.

3/11/2009 12:55 PM
Anonymous said...

Private university with its own police force and a declaration from the trustees that the campus is gun free and therefore safe. On the record, documented, perfect.
If they ever, God forbid, have an incident then they are wide open for a massive lawsuit. And should a permit holder be wounded or killed while on campus having disarmed to comply with their rule, they or their family might easily wind up owning the place.

3/11/2009 1:18 PM
Anonymous said...

Sorry, Uncle Lar, but they won't end up owning the place. Their attendance will be presented as voluntary, which it will be, and their adherence to the helpless victim policy will also be presented as a voluntary decision solely at their discretion and therefore the university is not responsible for that decision.

Hate to say this, but I would tend to agree.

As a practical matter the private police force will also be recognized as having qualified immunity as regards protecting any individual or not even attempting to do so. With that I disagree, but that is the way it is. Others can demand you be helpless for security, claim they have control of your safety then deny any responsibility for it when they fail to provide that security.

Known as having your cake and eating it too.

Helplessness is not a security measure. Enrollment at LU is not mandatory, in my world it isn't even desirable. Or any other university with the possible exception of those in Utah.

Parents who love their children properly would just refuse to send their children to "victim pool colleges". One year of that would change the policy everywhere. Think about that, if enrollment next year for first time freshmen was only 10% of this year's enrollment, the religion of disarmament at bastions of higher education would die almost instantly. They may not love your children enough to allow them defense of life, but they love your money enough to do what it takes to get it.

3/11/2009 5:36 PM
Anonymous said...

And a year in the real world working just might innoculate your children against further programming by the people who spread the propaganda that "armed is evil"./

3/11/2009 5:38 PM
W W Woodward said...

Quote - [So the decision was made, since crime has not really been a problem at LU, not to make any changes to the policy at this time.”]

This statement may be readily translated: "Enough people haven't been raped, assaulted, robbed, or killed on campus yet to merit a change in university policy."

Just how many dead students is enough?

3/11/2009 8:42 PM
Anonymous said...

Well, Jerry Falwell can do what he wants, but his school is not a church and not Scripturally sanctioned. In the chapel on the campus I could understand, but not the campus as a whole.

3/11/2009 10:46 PM
Anonymous said...

Remember, the Marxists like Lenin were correct when they said that religion is the opiate pf the people. Trust in Jesus to watch over his flock. If something bad happens, then it in is God's will.

B*** S***, folks. Take some responsibilty for your lives and demand change. If the student body, en masse, led a torchlight procession to the university office (apologies to fans of "Frankensten", the movie) and demanded change, then change might occur. In the meanntime, everyone feels safe, fat (in the Biblical sense, remember, this is L.U.) and happy. Trust in Jesus. Amen.

3/12/2009 12:45 AM

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