Tuesday, May 05, 2009

He Said/He Said

There's this:
I was being really cooperative except for not letting them in my house without a warrant,” Reed said.
And then there's this:
"If you assault an officer, it's almost like you're assaulting the public as well because that's who we're representing,” Hamblin said.
So to make sure that doesn't happen, we...uh...assault the public...?

[Via StrandedInIowa]

8 comments:

Pat H. said...

How very....socialist.

East Germany was disassembled and reassembled here.

Sparky said...

It's difficult to argue excessive force when the cop is in the hopital and you're not

Anonymous said...

Not when you factor in paid medical and paid time off...

straightarrow said...

Without even taking a side in this particular incident, I would like to posit that this is what I have been warning about for a long time now. Regardless of who is right or wrong in this episode it is obvious the police no longer command the respect they once did.

They have only themselves to blame for that. As a nation we have watched for years as they beat and murder innocents and suffer no consequences because they were "within department policy". It has taken a long time, but reaching this juncture was inevitable. It will only get worse. It has been almost 40 years since law enforcement declared war on the citizen, but the citizen is finally starting to glom onto the fact. Many may not realize the warlike nature of current law enforcement policy, but intuitively they know the cops are their enemies and they are starting to treat them as such more and more often.

Law enforcement has had ample opportunity to clean itself up. They have refused. Nothing else will suffice to return them to the position of respect they once held.

I fear the only thing that will bring about the reforms needed in policy and the changeover in type of personnel hired is for law enforcement to be afraid of the public in a way they have not before.

We are witnessing the slow escalation of the building intolerance of the public for people in authority whom we cannot trust. That escalation will accelerate.

It is a needless thing to contemplate, but only law enforcement can prevent it now. The only way they can is to, I reiterate, clean up their act. I suspect instead they will attempt to apply the boot even more forcefully, thereby placing themselves in mortal danger from an increasingly angry and intolerant public. The public,not the police characters and already criminals, but the law-abiding public who will take their authority and duty to the law back into their own hands if that be the only way to live in peace and without dread of criminal gangs and cops(redundancy alert).

Burrow Owl said...

From the article:
"Then, police say the situation intensified and Officer Liddle got punched, kicked, knocked to the ground and almost dragged inside the house."So exactly how did Officer Liddle end up getting 'almost dragged inside the house' if the occupants refused to open the door and allow him to enter without a warrant?

Could it be that the officers violated the provisions of the 4th Amendment by breaking down the door and forcing their way in anyway?

Kent McManigal said...

NO cop "represents" me nor do I take any blame for any actions these vermin commit in "my name". I'd rather have the mafia claim to "represent" me, but they don't either. Disgusting.

Oldfart said...

Straightarrow is correct -- the time is past when the police were respected. Their actions have caused that respect to degenerate into fear and loathing. Think about this: When you are driving down a street and you see a police car pull into traffic behind you do you suddenly feel safer or do you check your speedometer? Why?

Defender said...

If you assault an officer IN YOUR HOUSE, it's almost like you're assaulting a member of the public who's TRESPASSING WHILE ARMED.
Cops have phones. I've seen them. If they won't open the door, Officer Boots doesn't have to scuff his boots, he can exercise his finger.
I go with the door-kicking theory, just because we know about cops and impulse control.
I myself am a lot more tolerant of the occasional loud party and obscene shouts and song lyrics, having seen police mentality. It might mean my neghborhood becomes a little more like the 'hood, but I prefer that to jackboots marching in step.