The officer who was killed...was wearing plain clothes, was shot in the arm and chest after a team of three other plainclothes officers in a car came upon him chasing a man ...with his gun drawn... [More]See, that's the argument against letting you and me carry--the "Only Ones" won't know who's not in their Bloomberg's Finest clique. That they can't even tell who is seems not to factor in.
Friday, May 29, 2009
We're the Only Ones Mistaken for Armed Criminals Enough
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Here's what I think is the money quote:
Investigators were interviewing the two officers in the car who did not fire at Officer Edwards. The department does not interview officers involved in fatal shootings until a prosecutor determines whether criminal charges will be brought.
Would you be afforded the same courtesy or would you have to fight for your right to remain silent and have counsel? Would you be afforded the courtesy of being told PoPo won't talk to you till the DA decides if charging, Hey don't want you to incriminate yourself.
I don't understand the problem here. Why don't they just declare it all within department policy, give the shooter a paid vacation and piss all over the corpse of the dead guy like they do for everyone else?
So, one out of the three police ununiformed officers shot an armed black man without realizing that he was another ununiformed police officer.
Did any of these four identify themselves as police officers while showing their badges of authority?
What would these officers do if they encountered another group of ununiformed police officers?
Why do I suspect that if you armed and not instantly recognized, you will be shot?
Is that why they cordoned off the ambulance parking area while they gathered and comiserated?
Why did they consider that they had the right to impedede the ambulance crews?
This is why the police are sometimes not in the best position to respond to a crime in progress. The people involved in the crime, both victim and perpetrator know their roles, but when the police roll up they don't know which one is the bad guy.
I think this is why you don't see to many stories of civilians shooting the wrong guy; the victim has no problem determining which one of the two of them is the bad guy. This is also why our CC instructor spent 30 minutes going over scenarios where we might be tempted to help someone else who appears to be in trouble. You can't always be sure who the perpetrators are.
Wow! Just WOW....
Quote: "Investigators were interviewing the two officers in the car who did not fire at Officer Edwards. The department does not interview officers involved in fatal shootings until a prosecutor determines whether criminal charges will be brought."
So no statement is taken from the officer who did the shooting? Talk about insulation! Wat a gig!
Isn't that why the notorious BART officer quit his job? So he wouldn't have to make a statement?
So, officer A shoots someone. Officer B and C witness the shooting. Officer A invokes silence by department policy. Officers B and C are interviewed and give the perfect cover story for Officer A. The prosecutor then decides NOT to press charges. Then Officer A can talk about the incident all he wants to, telling everyone, of course, what a hero he is.
Hell, who WOULDN'T want to be a JBT?
I know the area where the shooting took place and Officer Edwards ran right under a NYPD camera hanging from a post in the middle of 125street and 2nd. Avenue. None of the accounts I have read on this mentions the camera, It's a huge camera and pretty hard to miss.
What a shame. A police officer actually tries to stop a crime a progress that he witnessed and is shot dead because he wasn't wearing an "only one" uniform.
It would appear that some "only ones" won't hesitate to shoot a mere citizen even if they have no idea what is going on.
If the deceased officer had been a non-only one there would likely be no investigation whatsoever currently underway.
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