Tuesday, November 17, 2009

ISRA Warns Members about Hospitalization/Domestic Disputes

Recent Illinois Law (PA 95-0564) provides that health care professionals report patients to the state police anyone that they believe might pose a danger to themselves or others. ISRA has learned of situations where a party has been admitted to a hospital for stress, alcohol treatment, or other scenarios where part of the admission procedure included a short interview with a psychologist on staff. Questions asked, include gun ownership, and/or the Possession of a FOID card. Within a few weeks that individual receives a notice from the Illinois State Police revoking his or her FOID. [More]
Dang. That really sucks.

Is there any law that says you can't tell the doctor it's none of his damn business? If he's acting in a law enforcement capacity, can you get in trouble for just lying to him?

Who thought that FOID card was a good idea, anyway?

[Via billinois]

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well this sucks!

The new law was passed after the Virginia tech shooting.

Anyone with a brain knew the law would be abused.

We need to spread the word on this issue and try and get the law changed.

Do we really need the FOID card?

Maybe we need to dump it as well.

MamaLiberty said...

These questions have been a part of some medical admissions for a long time. As a home health nurse, I was supposed to ask about guns in the home, drug use and lots of other things not my business. I never asked the questions, and always wrote "no" in the spaces provided.

When I'm asked invasive questions, I simply say no. Don't raise suspicions by trying to argue the point, just say no and move on.

Sean said...

In this way, the Gestapo operated well. Have all persons in the public sector observe, ask questions, note, and report. Then people can be arrested and shoved into camps quickly, so that they do not pollute the German people further. All America must act as one, if the undesirables are to be removed from society!Sieg, Heil!

straightarrow said...

The majority of the Gestapo's work was done willingly by the people of the countries they operated in. If my doctor asked me any such questions, she would leave completely insulted. As she is a she, I probably wouldn't hit her, my cardiologist, a different story. Though both, are very much liberty minded and wouldn't dream of doing any such thing. So, I guess my dire forebodings at this point is just so much noise. Thank goodness.

Anonymous said...

I would thik you would have the right to not answer any questions under the 5th Amendment. I recently watched a great you tube video by a Regent University Law professor that was just that message...."Don't Talk to Cops". Sounds like that is just the ticket.....of course you may not get admitted to the hospital and that may be a blessing as well.

straightarrow said...

Who thought that FOID card was a good idea, anyway?


I believe the answer to the question is NRA?

Anonymous said...

Most of the functionaries who ask these questions (doctors, psycholgists, and the like) are not interested in the truth, they're just interested in getting through what they consider a distasteful part of their job as quickly as possible. You can help them, and yourself, by giving them answers that will allow them to fill out their forms without necessitating further unpleasant and tedious work on their part. And if in the extremely unlikely event your answers are found out to be in error, well, everyone makes mistakes, as they say.

Or you could tell the naked truth. You might be surprised. During my first visit to my GP, the very young, birkenstock-wearing (really) doctor asked me the inevitable question about whether I had guns in the house. I told him the truth. It turned out he's a serious gun guy, and we spent a while talking about the relative merits of .45 ACP vs 10 mm, the best places to shoot in the area, and his next gun purchase.

David Codrea said...

There's actually another way to deal with that...