Thursday, December 08, 2005

Getting Your Gun Back Will Cost You

To the dismay of gun owners, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department is now charging $54 to return firearms seized during arrests or searches - even if the gun was legally owned and not used in a crime...

In addition to the storage fee, the gun's owner must pay the U.S. Department of Justice another $20 for a background check, according to the text of AB 2431. Each gun after the first one is $3...

"I would say it's communism," said Gene Fister, 70. "But taking something that belongs to someone else and charging them to get it back -- it's worse. It's stealing."

Agreed, Mr. Fister.

We are ruled by criminals.

9 comments:

  1. It's more properly called extortion, but either way it is still criminal. However, since the criminals are gov't agents, we'll never see them brought to justice.

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  2. Greedy, contemptuous, bastards! How much longer are we going to put up with this TYRANNY?

    στην κόλαση με τους τύραννους!
    (To HELL with TYRANTS!)

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  3. That's what federal courts are for. That is also what campaign appearances by prosecutors are for, to ask them why they do not charge criminals.

    And lastly that is what the second amendment is for.

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  4. One more thought. Looks like the dognappers of yesterday have grown up into more secure positions, doesn't it?

    You remember them. They would steal a dog, then wait for a lost/found reward to be placed or would call and say they found a dog and for a fee "if it is yours" we will bring it to you.

    Now we know why that enterprise isn't as widely spread as it used to be. They're all working for the cops and stealing easier to transport stuff.

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  5. And another thought. File a complaint against the officer that took with IAD, after talking to everybody as high up the ladder as you can. All the way past the chief to the mayor if you can. If you can't get in to see them, document their refusal to talk to after you informed of the theft of your property by cops and the conspiracy to extort you. The sue their asses off. Have every single one of them subpoenaed to appear. It will cost them each more than $54, even if you don't win. And the IAD complaints become a permanent part of the cop's jacket. That won't cause him much grief by itself, but it might a camel back breaker if he has other stuff, if he doesn't it will add to the stuff he will eventually get. Will not get him canned, could cost him lots of money over the years in lost promotions. Again, this is a nothing thing that will be easy to dismiss if it stands alone, but may help to expose a pattern of risk, if he has other complaints, to his minders that they would rather avoid. If nothing else it will bug him. The lawsuit with everybody subpoenaed is the attention getter. That's why you want to talk to as many people as possible about the problem and document who, where, what, when and how they replied. Now they are witnesses, at the least, and at most maybe co-defendants, if they answer really stupidly.

    This may be too aggressive for most people, but it is what I would do. At least, for starters. I don't tolerate trespass, by anybody.

    Once had a similar thing, not quite the same. Told the trooper to say goodbye to his family. He wanted to know if I was threatening him. I said, "Yes sir, I am threatening you. I will keep you in court every day I can, I will delay, I will extend, I will refile, I will sue for one violation at a time. When you are through wih me, win, lose, or draw, you will have a lot of time to make up on the job. So, you go ahead, but kiss your kids tonight and tell them you won't be seeing much of them over the next few months, because I am going to make as much of your life mine as I can."

    He knew what he tried was wrong, he didn't think he had a personal cost. Once he was aware, I wasn't the only one going to pay for his misdeed, he found Jesus! Ain't that a miracle? :(

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  6. Excellent idea straightarrow! Threaten to tie them up in court for as long as possible! (But NEVER hint at assassination!)

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  7. The tactic has worked for me ... I don't pay off traffic tickets.

    I fight every one I get. I make it so annoying, with continuances and subpoenas, that I win by default.

    I haven't been successfully sold a ticket for over a decade.

    Cops pull uip behind me, run my plates ... and then change lanes and leave me the hell alone.

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  8. I have paid traffic tickets, but none I didn't owe. Every one I paid, I deserved. No argument from me in that case. Yes sir, no sir, have a good day, can I mail in the fine?

    Different story entirely if I get hung up in revenue enhancement scheme and I don't have a ticket coming. Of course, you can't win it if it goes to trial, because on those schemes they always pick something you can't disprove. How do you prove you didn't cross the centerline? then your only recourse it to wear them out and make them spend their profit.

    Got stopped one time outside Wapakoneta, Oh. Speed limit was 55 mph. The trooper was a thoroughly pleasant and professional man. He asked me if I knew how fast I was going. I replied "Yessir, but way more important to me right now is do you know how fast I was going?"

    He grinned and said the a/c clocked me at 72mph. I said "Well, now I know my cruise control is accurate."

    He was flabbergasted that I didn't offer any excuses or try to lie out of it. Wrote me a biiiig ticket. I had no complaint coming. We parted on good terms. However another trooper that came up to us thought he would try some intimidation, didn't work. Long story but I got fairly ugly about it. The original trooper and I though had no problem, not even after I plumbed up his bully buddy.

    Sheriff outside Manhattan,Ks. got me speeding on hwy 24, asked me why I was going so fast. I told him "I thought this being a holiday you would be down on the interstate."

    So, yeah, I will pay a traffic ticket if I earned it.

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  9. And THEM getting any respect back will be impossible, til'after the big change.

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