The Police can arrest me during a normal day's course and in NY i will do 3 years mandatory.
When i go to prison i will loose my good paying job and thus my house and i will put my wife and kids in tremendous jeopardy.
Unfortunately the alternative of surviving an attact/robbery sounds better:
1. If i die my Life Insurance will cover a lot of things
2. If i survive, long term disability will cover a lot of things.
3. In both cases my family and I will curse the day we moved to NY where the State itself thinks that my life can be wasted away in prison or as a victim on the street as long as it's Agents feel "safer".
When NC became a shall issue state I went out and got a permit. I called my friend who lives in NJ and told him that I was carrying a concealed handgun. He said, "so what you've been doing that every day since you turned 21".
I had bought my first handgun on my 21st birthday.
Concealed carry without a permit should be the standard. The 2nd Amendment states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Bear arms means carry arms, including carrying a concealed firearm.
In my post, http://maine-crossroads.blogspot.com/2007/03/six-states-ready-for-vermont-carry.html, I argue that it is in fact time for Maine, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, Washington, and Indiana to pass "Vermont carry" bills.
I'm with Mike on this as well as anonymous up top. The cost to benefit ration has to be considered.
I'm not saying I carried without the permit (nor am I saying the opposite), but there is a time and place where I had to balance the possibility of going to jail and harming my family with the possibility of being in a situation where I would need the gun.
This, of course, saddens me to no end. It appears it is easy to disarm the citizenry by threatening their families. Me? Throw me in jail for all I care, but to think of what would happen to my little girls and my wife if I were to be out away is horrifying.
That's why I spent the money and got the permit. Of course, I'm going to figure out how to start lobbying for open carry so that I'm not a felon for tying my shoes and accidentally flashing my weapon.
There's another benefit to going through the aggravation of getting a permit, at least in "shall issue" states. Done in numbers, it sends a message to the places where a message needs sending.
A permit holder is likely to be someone who takes the RKBA fairly seriously. High and continuing demand for CCW should give disarmers pause...especially if we are careful to draw their attention to it.
Anonymous wrote: ... Unfortunately the alternative of surviving an attact/robbery sounds better:
1. If i die my Life Insurance will cover a lot of things
2. If i survive, long term disability will cover a lot of things.
3. In both cases my family and I will curse the day we moved to NY where the State itself thinks that my life can be wasted away in prison or as a victim on the street as long as it's Agents feel "safer".
You forgot some other alternatives. What if it's not you that is maimed or killed but, rather, your spouse or child? Does this sound like a better alternative to 3 years mandatory prison to you? to your wife? your kids? What if you are all killed?
The servant has truly become the master when good men are forced to choose between such alternatives.
Who bears the greater scorn ... the servant for usurping or the master for doing nothing?
When enemies set out to hurt me I set out to hunt them down and neutralize them. Any enemies. Not just the bad guy that would harm me, but also his accomplices that would aid him in harming me or punish me for not allowing it. \ ALL OF THEM.
Of course permits in the USA area hypocrisy BUT
ReplyDeleteThe Police can arrest me during a normal day's course and in NY i will do 3 years mandatory.
When i go to prison i will loose my good paying job and thus my house and i will put my wife and kids in tremendous jeopardy.
Unfortunately the alternative of surviving an attact/robbery sounds better:
1. If i die my Life Insurance will cover a lot of things
2. If i survive, long term disability will cover a lot of things.
3. In both cases my family and I will curse the day we moved to NY where the State itself thinks that my life can be wasted away in prison or as a victim on the street as long as it's Agents feel "safer".
When NC became a shall issue state I went out and got a permit. I called my friend who lives in NJ and told him that I was carrying a concealed handgun. He said, "so what you've been doing that every day since you turned 21".
ReplyDeleteI had bought my first handgun on my 21st birthday.
Can't remember the last time I left home without it.
ReplyDeleteConcealed carry without a permit should be the standard. The 2nd Amendment states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Bear arms means carry arms, including carrying a concealed firearm.
ReplyDeleteIn my post, http://maine-crossroads.blogspot.com/2007/03/six-states-ready-for-vermont-carry.html, I argue that it is in fact time for Maine, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, Washington, and Indiana to pass "Vermont carry" bills.
I have never asked permission, but I have carried. And will everytime I think I should.
ReplyDeleteI'm with Mike on this as well as anonymous up top. The cost to benefit ration has to be considered.
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying I carried without the permit (nor am I saying the opposite), but there is a time and place where I had to balance the possibility of going to jail and harming my family with the possibility of being in a situation where I would need the gun.
This, of course, saddens me to no end. It appears it is easy to disarm the citizenry by threatening their families. Me? Throw me in jail for all I care, but to think of what would happen to my little girls and my wife if I were to be out away is horrifying.
That's why I spent the money and got the permit. Of course, I'm going to figure out how to start lobbying for open carry so that I'm not a felon for tying my shoes and accidentally flashing my weapon.
There's another benefit to going through the aggravation of getting a permit, at least in "shall issue" states. Done in numbers, it sends a message to the places where a message needs sending.
ReplyDeleteA permit holder is likely to be someone who takes the RKBA fairly seriously. High and continuing demand for CCW should give disarmers pause...especially if we are careful to draw their attention to it.
Ain't this the same old story ... goin' back to the Black Panthers ... and beyond?
ReplyDeleteMost people don't want undesirables carryin' guns. But they can't legislate "undesirables" ... so they legislate against everyone.
Reason, as I see it, these laws are startin' to carry mandatory prison sentences is judges keep lettin' the undesirables off light.
Same old story ... in an effort to keep guns outta the hands of undesirables we keep legislatin' 'em outta our own hands. :-/
In a few cases, supreme idiocy intervenes ... to make it even werse (NYC, San Francisco, Chicago).
Anonymous wrote: ... Unfortunately the alternative of surviving an attact/robbery sounds better:
ReplyDelete1. If i die my Life Insurance will cover a lot of things
2. If i survive, long term disability will cover a lot of things.
3. In both cases my family and I will curse the day we moved to NY where the State itself thinks that my life can be wasted away in prison or as a victim on the street as long as it's Agents feel "safer".
You forgot some other alternatives. What if it's not you that is maimed or killed but, rather, your spouse or child? Does this sound like a better alternative to 3 years mandatory prison to you? to your wife? your kids? What if you are all killed?
The servant has truly become the master when good men are forced to choose between such alternatives.
Who bears the greater scorn ... the servant for usurping or the master for doing nothing?
Anonymous, I didn't ask my previous question to antagonize you. I asked it in shame as I examined myself. I know and understand your position.
ReplyDeleteI've carried when it was not legal to do so. There. Now I'll never be President.
ReplyDeleteWhen enemies set out to hurt me I set out to hunt them down and neutralize them. Any enemies. Not just the bad guy that would harm me, but also his accomplices that would aid him in harming me or punish me for not allowing it.
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ALL OF THEM.