In a move to capitalize on the VT shooting Gov. Tim Kaine of VA is looking for restrictions on how much ammo a citizen my have. He is “troubled” that a citizen could “stockpile” ammo without the police knowing about it.
I typically buy 1k or 2k rounds of 9mm at a time, so that I only have to buy it once per year or so. You and I both know that is a small amount of ammo (apprx 300 rounds per trip to the range X 5 trips per year), but it seems like a lot in print (to the bedwetters). I've started to worry that my routine target round purchases are going to raise a flag and get me hassled. Thinking about paying cash from now on, and buying much more in anticipation of having to register ammo purchases in the future.
Hmmm, seems like I recall a certain hardheaded person from Alabama of Dutch descent recently wrote something about ammo restrictions being a trip wire for armed insurrection. Somebody should tell the Guv.
My magazine-fed brick launcher is legally limited to a ten brick capacity.
What's the legal definition of a "stockpile"?
Most of my ammo is stored as components. I have a few thousand bullets, about 7 pounds of propellant, about 2,500 primers, but probably less than 1,000 pieces of brass.
Was Cho Seung-Hui "stockpiling" ammo beforehand? Or did he just do what most non-murderous people do, and buy a small amount at whichever location was the most convenient?
Once again, I raise the issue of efficiency and effectiveness. How does Kaine plan to keep tabs on all this? The state had ample opportunity to examine or restrain Cho Seung-Hui. Am I to believe that a massive, state-wide record-keeping and surveillance effort, regulated by the same government that could not keep tabs on one person in a minority of mentally ill persons, will execute their hugely-expanded duties with greater precision? With perfect precision?
He was one guy. When was the last time an armed murderer did this in a college campus in Virginia? How could anyone even jokingly suggest that this comically uncharacteristic fantasy-bureaucracy could even approach the efficiency and effectiveness of armed defenders at the scene of the crime?
He is showing his true color. It's 'Dunce-Cap White'.
Congressman Ron Paul intimated in a debate that the U.S. Military could adequately defend the country with a lot less dollars spent. That means a lot less manpower.
We are currently sending U.S. Border Patrol agents to protect the borders in foreign countries. Ron Paul’s proposition makes a lot of sense. But we would have to stop “projecting” power all over the globe with Navy ships and warplanes, and stop meddling in selective regional conflicts.
But the Second Amendment would have to be alive and well in this country first.
Citizens – especially the militia - would obviously have to stockpile plenty of ammo to protect against terrorist attacks.
If we are willing to accede our “protection” to ill-prepared and non-caring government agents, we really don’t “need” guns for self protection and protection of the Republic.
It all becomes a political question. Are you willing to continue with the current state of affairs and allow government JBTs to “protect “you?
If so, vote for Rudy, et al.
Of course, we all know that the police have no compelled legal duty to protect any individual citizen.
I vote for the return of the 2nd Amendment. I trust my neighbors over the guys who drive up in APCs and wait till the shootings over before they step out of their protected environment. I also trust my fellow Citizens more than the 400 pound doughnut eater running for cover with his AR flapping in the wind, while his bosses figure out how – and what – to do when the shooting starts.
I bet the average guy – if he know that he was EXPECTED to act, would prevent and stop a lot more crimes – including terrorist acts - than the “only ones.”
But only if he or she wouldn’t be beaten down and arrested for having more than two pre-ban magazines with him or her on any given occasion…
"With no way for authorities to monitor the cache."
How about daily inspections? That make you happy Kommissar Kaine?
Obviously this Kaine character is a wrong-headed idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about, and as such, should not be in office past the next election.
I'd like to retract my some of my words on Kaine. I don't really think he's a dunce. I seriously doubt he came up with this idea himself. He is probably being needled by the disarmament movement pressure groups. Because he is the executive in charge, he has to do something. Honestly, what can this guy do? What the disarmers are proposing is disproportionate to the risk, will tax the government even further, and likely won't prevent a similar crime from happening in the future.
The obvious way to address the problem (words of criticism for VT's bare-fisted defense policy) would be anti-climactic compared to, say, fascism.
Also:
Anon said: If we are willing to accede our “protection” to ill-prepared and non-caring government agents, we really don’t “need” guns for self protection and protection of the Republic.
It all becomes a political question. Are you willing to continue with the current state of affairs and allow government JBTs to “protect “you?
Great point. Congress is abrogating its responsibilities with respect to the militia. It's not feasible to employ a full-time professional military to watch every square inch of this country. Congress has broad powers that check those of the commander-in-chief. Yet what we have now is a lop-sided distribution of power. A war on foreign soil is one thing, but it appears to me that domestic defense is in the hands of agencies under control of the Executive Branch, save the overall budgets, and oddly enough... the Judicial Branch?
I typically buy 1k or 2k rounds of 9mm at a time, so that I only have to buy it once per year or so. You and I both know that is a small amount of ammo (apprx 300 rounds per trip to the range X 5 trips per year), but it seems like a lot in print (to the bedwetters). I've started to worry that my routine target round purchases are going to raise a flag and get me hassled. Thinking about paying cash from now on, and buying much more in anticipation of having to register ammo purchases in the future.
ReplyDeleteHmmm, seems like I recall a certain hardheaded person from Alabama of Dutch descent recently wrote something about ammo restrictions being a trip wire for armed insurrection. Somebody should tell the Guv.
ReplyDeleteMy magazine-fed brick launcher is legally limited to a ten brick capacity.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the legal definition of a "stockpile"?
Most of my ammo is stored as components. I have a few thousand bullets, about 7 pounds of propellant, about 2,500 primers, but probably less than 1,000 pieces of brass.
Was Cho Seung-Hui "stockpiling" ammo beforehand? Or did he just do what most non-murderous people do, and buy a small amount at whichever location was the most convenient?
Once again, I raise the issue of efficiency and effectiveness. How does Kaine plan to keep tabs on all this? The state had ample opportunity to examine or restrain Cho Seung-Hui. Am I to believe that a massive, state-wide record-keeping and surveillance effort, regulated by the same government that could not keep tabs on one person in a minority of mentally ill persons, will execute their hugely-expanded duties with greater precision? With perfect precision?
He was one guy. When was the last time an armed murderer did this in a college campus in Virginia? How could anyone even jokingly suggest that this comically uncharacteristic fantasy-bureaucracy could even approach the efficiency and effectiveness of armed defenders at the scene of the crime?
He is showing his true color. It's 'Dunce-Cap White'.
Congressman Ron Paul intimated in a debate that the U.S. Military could adequately defend the country with a lot less dollars spent. That means a lot less manpower.
ReplyDeleteWe are currently sending U.S. Border Patrol agents to protect the borders in foreign countries. Ron Paul’s proposition makes a lot of sense. But we would have to stop “projecting” power all over the globe with Navy ships and warplanes, and stop meddling in selective regional conflicts.
But the Second Amendment would have to be alive and well in this country first.
Citizens – especially the militia - would obviously have to stockpile plenty of ammo to protect against terrorist attacks.
If we are willing to accede our “protection” to ill-prepared and non-caring government agents, we really don’t “need” guns for self protection and protection of the Republic.
It all becomes a political question. Are you willing to continue with the current state of affairs and allow government JBTs to “protect “you?
If so, vote for Rudy, et al.
Of course, we all know that the police have no compelled legal duty to protect any individual citizen.
I vote for the return of the 2nd Amendment. I trust my neighbors over the guys who drive up in APCs and wait till the shootings over before they step out of their protected environment. I also trust my fellow Citizens more than the 400 pound doughnut eater running for cover with his AR flapping in the wind, while his bosses figure out how – and what – to do when the shooting starts.
I bet the average guy – if he know that he was EXPECTED to act, would prevent and stop a lot more crimes – including terrorist acts - than the “only ones.”
But only if he or she wouldn’t be beaten down and arrested for having more than two pre-ban magazines with him or her on any given occasion…
Kommie Kaine.
ReplyDelete"With no way for authorities to monitor the cache."
How about daily inspections? That make you happy Kommissar Kaine?
Obviously this Kaine character is a wrong-headed idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about, and as such, should not be in office past the next election.
Oh, and BTW: Monitor your Mother! Governor Kaine!
I'd like to retract my some of my words on Kaine. I don't really think he's a dunce. I seriously doubt he came up with this idea himself. He is probably being needled by the disarmament movement pressure groups. Because he is the executive in charge, he has to do something. Honestly, what can this guy do? What the disarmers are proposing is disproportionate to the risk, will tax the government even further, and likely won't prevent a similar crime from happening in the future.
ReplyDeleteThe obvious way to address the problem (words of criticism for VT's bare-fisted defense policy) would be anti-climactic compared to, say, fascism.
Also:
Anon said:
If we are willing to accede our “protection” to ill-prepared and non-caring government agents, we really don’t “need” guns for self protection and protection of the Republic.
It all becomes a political question. Are you willing to continue with the current state of affairs and allow government JBTs to “protect “you?
Great point. Congress is abrogating its responsibilities with respect to the militia. It's not feasible to employ a full-time professional military to watch every square inch of this country. Congress has broad powers that check those of the commander-in-chief. Yet what we have now is a lop-sided distribution of power. A war on foreign soil is one thing, but it appears to me that domestic defense is in the hands of agencies under control of the Executive Branch, save the overall budgets, and oddly enough... the Judicial Branch?