Fidler said he huddled in the corner of the men's clothing department with about a dozen other employees until police yelled to get out of the store.
The heirs of Liberty...
Anybody know if the mall is posted "No Guns"?
UPDATE: Joe's Crabby Shack says it is...
UPDATE 2: For some reason, this link to the Omaha.com Business Section is not currently working, but I was able to access the cached story with the relevant section below:
Sue the mall. And tell Bag 'N Save to Bugger 'N Stuff.
http://www.westroadsmall.com/
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I'd be willing to bet that it was anti-gun, as most malls seem to be.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=27755
ReplyDeleteI can't get the link they provide to open, but it appears to be another criminal empowerment zone.
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1208&u_sid=2355124
Dam,the title link stories comment section is FILLED UP with anti-retards and grabbers!
ReplyDeleteHasn't Omaha exploited the lack of a preemption provision in Nebraska's concealed carry law, and banned concealed carry (thus making mall policy largely irrelevant)?
ReplyDeleteAnyone know if any other Nebraska municipalities ban concealed carry? I know an effort was afoot to do so in Lincoln, but that effort was abandoned.
Oops--I was apparently wrong about Omaha.
ReplyDeleteOmaha city clerks name is Buster Brown.Say no more.
ReplyDeleteThe footage I saw had a very distraught woman talking about how she was hiding and all she had in her hand was "this" ... the camera pans down to show a crucifix in her hand. The authorized journalist doing the voice over then finished by saying "that's all any of them could do, wait and pray."
ReplyDeleteI swear, to my dying day, I will never understand the liberal, anti-gun mindset. The flawed logic and failed reasoning is beyond redemption ... damnable and blood stained to the utmost.
was talking to my mom about this...she usually lives in a MSM world. Hadn't heard about it til I mentioned it then watched the 10 o'clock news.
ReplyDeleteShe, an overweight diabetic, post heart attack, smoker nurse asked why nobody did anything and said SHE would have. Also asked if he was on a balcony why nobody made any effort to toss him over.
God bless ya mom!
oh yeah...the news twerps are also already claiming it was an assault rifle, I guess when you have sensationalism on your side you don't need facts. Expect tape to be outlawed next.
http://www.ketv.com/news/14782867/detail.html
I'm not going to huddle in a corner while my friends are getting killed. They can post whatever they want, it doesn't change a thing.
ReplyDelete"By the time officers arrived six minutes later, the shooting was over".... that is the only relevant part of the story, if you asked me... which you didn't.
ReplyDeleteI lived in Omaha and environs for quite a few years. My wife used to work literally across the street from that mall. My youngest daughter still lives in Omaha and works a few doors down from my wife's former employer and literally across the street from that mall. I have been in that mall many times. Fortunately my daughter did not take this afternoon as planned to cross the street and go Christmas shopping in that mall.
ReplyDeleteI talked to her tonight and asked her if the mall was still a victim disarmament zone, she said it was.
When I lived in Omaha they had the absolute worst law enforcement community of any place I had ever lived and I have lived damn near everywhere in this country. HOwever, credit where credit is due, there isn't much room for improvement in their response to this atrocity today. They did about as well as can be reasonably expected and did a damn good job after arriving on the scene. It is the largest mall in the entire state. They acquitted themselves well.
But that doesn't change the fact that the shooter was in complete control of when the shooting would stop and his own fate. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. In this case, it was all over before the first cop pulled on the lot. And the cops did as well as could be expected.
Gun Free Zones are not gun free if the criminally murderous element is taken into account, but the criminal's success is guaranteed by such idiocy as signs telling killers that they have a target rich environment full of defenseless prey.
Helplessness is not a security measure.
Lawsuits against mall management should be filed severally and in class action, due to the policy of victim presentation to monsters. They deny the right of self protection under the guise of property rights, but do not fill that vacuum in power with responsibility for the lives and health of their patrons.
This is no different than if they had painted all the walls and covered all the floors with coverings which included known virulent carcinogens and were granted immunity from providing recompense to their patrons who subsequently developed cancers.
Their policy is just as irresponsible as if they had knowingly exposed their patrons to fatal diseases, for that is just what they did.
I encouraged my daughter tonight to form a group of the professional people she works with and neighbors to attend every city council meeting and meet the hysterical control mongering of the blood-dancers with fact when they start calling for more restrictions on firearms.
Lincoln is only 45 minutes away and I warned her that she could expect the state legislature, or at least some of them to try to profit by this atrocity and snatch even more freedom and security from all those people who didn't do this.
I hope while she is still angry and heartsick about what happened that she develops a network to fight the call for more victim disarmament we know is coming.
As I told her, the real problem is not that were were too many guns in that mall, but that there were way too few.
One thing we won't be hearing from the anti's for a while is, "Nobody needs to carry a gun".
ReplyDeleteYeah, just as long as nobody minds being gunned down by a zit-faced kid armed with an obsolete rifle.
I read somewhere that every whack job punk kid who did this murdering rampage stuff was on anti-depressants at the time of the shootings.
ReplyDeleteWestroads is posted.
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