From reading the comments I see a lot of chest thumping and calls for action. This reads like so much keyboard commando nonsense. Refighting the American revolution is not going to turn the tide, even if it could be won. The mob has become far too accustomed to bread and circuses to want such a change. This slavery has daycare, convenient shopping, and basic cable.Brillianter has an "Awkward" moment.
It would be easy to get upset with his conclusions here, but when you consider the sorry state of most of our countrymen, including most "activist" gun owners, I'm afraid that would be a bit like killing the messenger. Still, I don't buy into the defeatism--we have no idea what the future holds, nor what will happen if there is a huge disaster--natural, economic, political-- precipitating areas of anarchy, with the attendant need to find out what we're made of, and with the leadership examples and pressures to organize that would necessitate...
Thank you for the link.
ReplyDeleteI don't wish to contradict you, but I don't think that rising from the ashes of TEOTWAWKI is a realistic strategy. If we could shoot our way out of our predicament I would buy the first case of ammo, but I don't think it is a workable solution. Defeatism is to say that the system can't be changed. It most certainly can be changed, but the change has to happen in peoples thinking in order to get rid of the scoundrels and petty tyrants.
Hopefully I'm being clear that that is my position too.
ReplyDelete(God, please shoot me for using this phrase) We need to win the hearts and minds of our neighbors. Convincing a large portion of the populace that their rights are in danger and doing so in a way that is realistic and not coming off as "kooky" is going to be hard.
But we have to try.
Been workin' that angle for decades now, fellas. And still working it, as you can see.
ReplyDeleteBut I don't believe in two things:
1. Thinking I can predict future conditions with any degree of certainty and
2. limiting potential responses to those conditions.
Don't rule out the cartridge box. You may end up needing it. It may not restore the Republic, but it may secure a piece of it.
If we can't win the hearts and minds, all that will be left is hoping for a disaster.
ReplyDeleteDoing the same thing over and over again while hoping for a different result is what?
ReplyDeleteDon't we rail at the anti-gun rights community about their constant screaming that 'just one more law will save the chillens'?
We all know that it won't.
Now let's be honest. We can talk about giving up rights until we are blue in the face, but most people will not wake up until they are standing in Auschwitz.
The Nazis were not defeated with words. The British were not kicked out of the American colonies or Ireland with words.
We have a bureaucratic juggernaut here in the US which most people do not wish to oppose.
We are decades past the line that our Founding Fathers held. While I am not sure what they would have thought of the NFA ... No, I do know what they would have thought of the NFA. That opinion was recorded April 19th on Lexington Green.
That being said, I agree with David. I doubt that the entire Republic can be saved. Most people do not want to live free. However, I do expect that some small areas can be restored to freedom.
After reading the briefs for and against Heller, basically confirming what I already knew, my feeling is that if we don't get a ruling of an individual right that actually means something, there is no hope for the Republic.
ReplyDeletePeople are free, for the time being anyway, to boast and post about what they'll do when the SHTF, but I guess we will just have to wait and see how true they are. I think it an odd strategy to show your cards, however.
"People are free, for the time being anyway,..."-FF
ReplyDeleteNo we are not. Too many people confuse mobility with freedom. There is nothing in this country one can now do that is not in some way regulated, taxed, licensed or punishable.
I use to ask people to name even one thing that does not fall in the above categories, finally quit when nobody could come up with any activity not so covered.
People are free, for the time being anyway, to boast and post about what they'll do when the SHTF
ReplyDeleteThis is what I said and to chop it off and pass it off as a broad generalization lacks intellectual honesty. No, actually it simply lacks honesty.
You are better off stockpiling ammunition because in a battle of wits you come up short.
The fact that several posters here are not in Gitmo now sort of illustrates the truth of my statement that you are free to boast away.
I don't see where that level of vitriol was necessary, FF. He didn't insult you.
ReplyDeleteYou are right, David, and I apologize.
ReplyDeleteI do not take back my charge that his misrepresentation of what I said is decidedly wrong, however.
It wasn't meant as a misrepresentation, due to the fact that I missed the first comma in the sentence I assumed you were posting two closely related, though not identical thoughts. I did not realize it the separated phrase was a qualifier.
ReplyDeleteI certainly understood the second part of the sentence and I agree with it to this point. We are free to do so, so long as you are not percieved as being effective enough to cause change.
As for your hateful response, oh well.
Oh, yeah I usually read these things pretty well, but I cannot read them with my glasses and on occassion I may miss some small detail due to rampant astigmatism. Though I may have made a spectacle of myself, I believe your lenses are thicker.
Again I apologize. I do tend to get a little rough and tumble in the heat of the moment.
ReplyDeleteLet's bury the hatchet...and I mean that figuratively!
Let he who puts his armour on, not boast like he who takes it off. That said, I ain't no chest thumper, and I ain't no keyboard commando, and I sure as hell am tired of guys like on that site pointing fingers and calling bluff. I got one standard. Let's hook. I ain't happy, and I ain't alone, and I ain't naked. And I ain't bluffin'.
ReplyDelete"Let's bury the hatchet...and I mean that figuratively!"FF
ReplyDeleteWorks for me. As long as we bury it in our enemies and not each other.