Doesn't matter how much ammo you stockpile. It could become an issue if you pick chamberings not in common use.
If you're on that much of a budget, your stockpile wouldn't be large and it's highly doubtful you are a reloader.
If you're worried about saving your own skin, why pick semi-junky things you likely won't be able to refresh your ammo supply for?
I suppose I'll get a "liberator .45 pistol you unload with a dowel" essay for saying this. Screw the new trucks and chintz for the wife and buy decent arms.
I've a Carcano I sometimes shoot for giggles with my stock of WW2 headstamped ammo, and it'd work as a survival rifle in a pinch, but it wouldn't be anywhere close to my first choice in an emergency kit.
Well, the Mosin sure has plenty of cheap ammo around for now, not so much 8mm, which is what I have. the single shot 12,16 or 20 ga's. are all ok for hunting birds, rabbitts and deer, but a couple of good pumps in either ga. is better for home defense or offense both. the Model 10 S&W is one of the most accurate wheel guns I have ever owned but I would still wish for a 1911 for EDC. I would say this for Creekmore though, welcome back. To blog or not to blog, that is a question?
Uh, .223 and 5.56 are the same ammo. .223 is caliber, 5.56 is millimeter. Same cartridge. Not to be confused with, or used the same as 5.45 mm, which is Russian and not compatible with 5.56mm. 223cal. loads as 224 by the way. Nice to know if you get into that sort of thing.Not long ago, I was in Cheaper than Dirt, and two guys were trying to decide whether to buy 223 or 5.56 . After I gave a brief explanation, they were real stoney-faced to me. I was a dumbass too, a while back, I didn't hold it agin them. I acknowledge almost all readers of this blog already knew that stuff too.
And also Kaveman, I can load a .223 hotter than a 5.56, so what does that prove? Show me a 5.56 cartridge that will not load into a pistol or rifle marked .223. My point was, and still is, when the guy anon said 5.56, not .223, he said in effect "use blue, not blue." Chamber pressure reached using the same amount of powder on a .223/5.56 are identical. Hotter loads mean different bullet weights and powder types and amounts. They're the same thing, .223/5.56 expressed in different measurements. Where did you get your information?
He certainly nailed it by suggesting the Mosin Nagant.
ReplyDeleteI've seen 'em on sale for $50. I've bought 3 Nagants just in case I need to give them away when the SHTF.
We not only need to arm ourselves, but think about your neighbor as well.
I also have a Mosin Nagant as well as my youngest son. They are good rifles and ina pinch will do well.
ReplyDeleteDepends on how long a problem lasts.
ReplyDeleteI'd suggest:
.357M/.40S&W/9mm for handheld.
.308 or 5.56 (not .223) for rifle.
and 12 gauge for a shotgun.
Doesn't matter how much ammo you stockpile. It could become an issue if you pick chamberings not in common use.
If you're on that much of a budget, your stockpile wouldn't be large and it's highly doubtful you are a reloader.
If you're worried about saving your own skin, why pick semi-junky things you likely won't be able to refresh your ammo supply for?
I suppose I'll get a "liberator .45 pistol you unload with a dowel" essay for saying this. Screw the new trucks and chintz for the wife and buy decent arms.
I've a Carcano I sometimes shoot for giggles with my stock of WW2 headstamped ammo, and it'd work as a survival rifle in a pinch, but it wouldn't be anywhere close to my first choice in an emergency kit.
Well, the Mosin sure has plenty of cheap ammo around for now, not so much 8mm, which is what I have. the single shot 12,16 or 20 ga's. are all ok for hunting birds, rabbitts and deer, but a couple of good pumps in either ga. is better for home defense or offense both. the Model 10 S&W is one of the most accurate wheel guns I have ever owned but I would still wish for a 1911 for EDC. I would say this for Creekmore though, welcome back. To blog or not to blog, that is a question?
ReplyDeleteWhere is he finding model 10s for $200? Here in Phoenix you are looking at $400+ even for used.
ReplyDeleteUh, .223 and 5.56 are the same ammo. .223 is caliber, 5.56 is millimeter. Same cartridge. Not to be confused with, or used the same as 5.45 mm, which is Russian and not compatible with 5.56mm. 223cal. loads as 224 by the way. Nice to know if you get into that sort of thing.Not long ago, I was in Cheaper than Dirt, and two guys were trying to decide whether to buy 223 or 5.56 . After I gave a brief explanation, they were real stoney-faced to me. I was a dumbass too, a while back, I didn't hold it agin them. I acknowledge almost all readers of this blog already knew that stuff too.
ReplyDeleteActually, 223 and 5.56 are not always the same.
ReplyDeleteAs a rule, 5.56 is a hotter load generating higher chamber pressures that your .223 may not be able to handle.
Yes, dimensions are the same but not the powder load.
Bullshit. Prove it.
ReplyDeleteAnd also Kaveman, I can load a .223 hotter than a 5.56, so what does that prove? Show me a 5.56 cartridge that will not load into a pistol or rifle marked .223. My point was, and still is, when the guy anon said 5.56, not .223, he said in effect "use blue, not blue." Chamber pressure reached using the same amount of powder on a .223/5.56 are identical. Hotter loads mean different bullet weights and powder types and amounts. They're the same thing, .223/5.56 expressed in different measurements. Where did you get your information?
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