Monday, April 20, 2009

We Can All Agree to Disagree

Mexican and U.S. authorities disagree on just what type of gun it was. Federal police coordinator Gen. Rodolfo Cruz maintains it was .50-caliber anti-air craft machine gun. ATF, the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said it was an unmodified .50-caliber semiautomatic rifle made by TNW, a U.S. firearms manufacturer. [More]
Whose Paranoid brings us a conflicted report.

I hate to add even more confusion, but I had a source with connections tell me:
THIS is not a .50 anti aircraft machine gun. It is a 1917-1918A series 30 Cal thousands of which have been given to Latin American Countries over the years and which has not been in the US inventory for almost 50 years.
Perhaps someone can help clarify all these seeming disconnects...?

8 comments:

  1. At the press conference in question, the Mexican police displayed both .30-caliber and .50-caliber Browning belt-fed guns. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=155342

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  2. If you go to the TNW website, they make semi auto versions of machine guns. Several years ago, they were priced at several thousand dollars. The site asks that you call for current pricing. So it could be either a new semi auto or surplus brought into Mexico from farther south. But it isn't your typical gunshop or gun show weapon.

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  3. It must be cold this time of year in Mexico... I mean, why else would they need face mask?

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  4. straightarrow4/20/2009 2:46 PM

    The one I saw mounted on a p/u was a 1918 .30 cal machine gun and was just about useless as it had no elevation or traverse mechanism.

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  5. Why are you people so suprised? Really? After 25 years of this nonsense from the Communists (oh sorry, Liberals...) how can anyone be suprised that those in power would use ANY excuse to solidify and consolidate their power? It does NOT matter what political party they belong to, which church they attend, or what their skin color is. We are nothing more than a variable in their formula for aquiring more wealth and power. If you want to do some small amount of good in the world. If you want to actually DO something worthwhile to defend our rights against the liars, thieves, and fools who blatantly abuse their power and rub our faces in it. RUN FOR OFFICE! I don't care if it the F***ing city dog catcher, get involved in the system and use that system (Their system) against them.
    I did, and I will again...

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  6. Yeah, that'll work. Right up until the time they make you that "lead or silver", offer. The "system" is corrupt from head to toe, and if you don't believe it, you either have been locked in a cell for the last thirty years, or you don't read the net and see what goes on on TV. If you can suppress the gag reflex. Any person in govt. in a position of consequence is already corrupted. Any person not in a position of consequence is controlled by corrupted people. "Their" system, is just that. What ain't written down, they'll make it up. What's exposed as fraud and injustice will be covered up, disposed of, vaporized. Make waves about it, you're gone. It ain't about Republic anymore, and it never was about Democracy. It's all about Power, Money, Control. Everything else is just details.

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  7. Looks like there's a semi-auto .50 cal on the table across from the 1919, and ma duece on the truck. So both accounts are probably correct.

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  8. Phased Plasma Rifle in 40watt range.

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