Hmmm. Judging a whole class based on a number of bad examples, however large that sample may be. I guess I won't see any more notes complaining about all gunowners being lumped together again, right? :D
Lawhobbit, there's a limit to how many cops in a given police department are bad before it becomes prudent to distrust them all, just as there is such a limit for bad gunowners among the population of all gunowners. Gunowners have not come anywhere near that line, but the police often do. There is also the nasty little fact that most PDs will cover for their bad cops, unless it is so egregious that they don't dare.
A more pervasive attitude is that they think that what they say is the law, even when it clearly is not. Witness the Great New Orleans Gun Grab, where the police just decided that the Constitution and the law meant nothing. And it was California's own Highway Patrol who body-slammed an eighty-year-old woman against the wall, breaking her shoulder in three places, because she didn't want to leave, and she showed them her revolver to prove she could defend her home. They weren't to be defied, you see.
So, seeing all this crap, no, I don't trust any cop, because the chances are good that he thinks he's the law, or above the law.
Lawhobbit, no matter how large the sample? Are you a fucking idiot?
there was no general alarm among the people until the sample became so large as to be undeniable that it was not just a 'few bad apples'. There was no general alarm among the people until the officers we thought could be trusted covered up for, lied for, and perjured for and exonerated the criminals in their ranks.
No I don't trust the police. Too many exhibit the us vs. the scumbag public syndrome. Many appear to only be report takers as well. Then there are those who have watched to many Stallone movies 'I am the LAW!'
Lawhoppit, you're to die for. I'll bet your lineage goes back to "good Germans" watching Jews get the crap kicked out of them on the streets and everywhere else. I guess what it will take for "intellectuals" like you to wake up and smell the coffee is when you wake up and are made to look at a pile of corpses. Begen-Belsen is the result of people looking the other way. It is a pity you lack the intestinal fortitude to see what is going on.
jselvy: you forgot the part about shooting the family pet.
Oregon Law Hobbit: I understand your point. To discriminate in and of itself is not necessarily an undesirable thing - it's the basis for one's discrimination that might be at question. I'll base my discrimination on available evidence - first and sometimes second-hand.
Besides - as David often points out - these "Only Ones" are ordinary people somehow magically endowed with abilities that transcend mere mortals - gun owners included. Much of my own discrimination on this topic is based on how I see this fantasy regularly played out in real life.
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ReplyDeleteI trust the police to arrive too late, make the worst possible decision, attack the wrong address and assault the elderly.
ReplyDeleteHmmm. Judging a whole class based on a number of bad examples, however large that sample may be. I guess I won't see any more notes complaining about all gunowners being lumped together again, right? :D
ReplyDeleteYou're free to answer "Yes"...
ReplyDeleteLawhobbit, there's a limit to how many cops in a given police department are bad before it becomes prudent to distrust them all, just as there is such a limit for bad gunowners among the population of all gunowners. Gunowners have not come anywhere near that line, but the police often do. There is also the nasty little fact that most PDs will cover for their bad cops, unless it is so egregious that they don't dare.
ReplyDeleteA more pervasive attitude is that they think that what they say is the law, even when it clearly is not. Witness the Great New Orleans Gun Grab, where the police just decided that the Constitution and the law meant nothing. And it was California's own Highway Patrol who body-slammed an eighty-year-old woman against the wall, breaking her shoulder in three places, because she didn't want to leave, and she showed them her revolver to prove she could defend her home. They weren't to be defied, you see.
So, seeing all this crap, no, I don't trust any cop, because the chances are good that he thinks he's the law, or above the law.
Lawhobbit, no matter how large the sample? Are you a fucking idiot?
ReplyDeletethere was no general alarm among the people until the sample became so large as to be undeniable that it was not just a 'few bad apples'. There was no general alarm among the people until the officers we thought could be trusted covered up for, lied for, and perjured for and exonerated the criminals in their ranks.
No matter how large the sample? Are you serious?
go watch the video referenced on the linked site.
ReplyDeleteNo I don't trust the police. Too many exhibit the us vs. the scumbag public syndrome. Many appear to only be report takers as well. Then there are those who have watched to many Stallone movies 'I am the LAW!'
ReplyDeleteLawhoppit, you're to die for. I'll bet your lineage goes back to "good Germans" watching Jews get the crap kicked out of them on the streets and everywhere else. I guess what it will take for "intellectuals" like you to wake up and smell the coffee is when you wake up and are made to look at a pile of corpses. Begen-Belsen is the result of people looking the other way. It is a pity you lack the intestinal fortitude to see what is going on.
ReplyDeleteNO! And I am a LEO, so I should know.
ReplyDeletejselvy: you forgot the part about shooting the family pet.
ReplyDeleteOregon Law Hobbit: I understand your point. To discriminate in and of itself is not necessarily an undesirable thing - it's the basis for one's discrimination that might be at question. I'll base my discrimination on available evidence - first and sometimes second-hand.
Besides - as David often points out - these "Only Ones" are ordinary people somehow magically endowed with abilities that transcend mere mortals - gun owners included. Much of my own discrimination on this topic is based on how I see this fantasy regularly played out in real life.