When I tell people about the things I see here, it doesn't seem to trouble them, like it was something one has to accept in life. And they don't seem to think that it's leading to something that's coming and going to be very,very,bad. A lot like talking to Jews in 1934 Germany............
And those same people, Sean, feel warm and tingly when they see that big, dumb skinhead with a black uniform and submachine gun. But if they see you with a gun, they wet themselves.
Interesting link. The site appears to be run by people with whom many folks here may have considerable disagreement...but despite the very different backgrounds, the commonality of calling out state thuggery in uniform is refreshing.
(And besides, there is some hope; they let a link to Claire Wolfe slip in. :-)
David, you might also want to take a look at this site which focuses only on police misconduct, and strives to build a body of data and statistics. His up-to-the-minute Twitter feed (you don't need to be on Twitter to browse) can be a particularly riling and depressing experience
I think a lot of people see the injustices as inherent in police work. The people I talk to find inspiration in exploring alternative forms of policing, especially incorporating a civilian ran militia. Once that conversation begins, it's easy for people to envision a more responsive government and better way of keeping citizens safe.
Kevin,
I live in Portland, Oregon. Most of the activists I work with are hard-core socialists, animal rights activists, environmentalists, &c - between the small disagreements, there's so many principals everyone can agree on. Young radicals seek education; engage them in a dialog and you'll soon have an ally if you can make a better argument. I see so much demonizing of the "other" political party, it's only when we find common ground can we truly get anything done. Anti-establishment radicals love guns, too.
The sight is run by hard core lefties. It used to be that there was an anti-athoritarian, pro-civil-rights school of thought is that political spectrum. Now if they could only understand that private property and fire arms are civil rights we could make progress.
When I tell people about the things I see here, it doesn't seem to trouble them, like it was something one has to accept in life. And they don't seem to think that it's leading to something that's coming and going to be very,very,bad. A lot like talking to Jews in 1934 Germany............
ReplyDeleteAnd those same people, Sean, feel warm and tingly when they see that big, dumb skinhead with a black uniform and submachine gun. But if they see you with a gun, they wet themselves.
ReplyDeleteInteresting link. The site appears to be run by people with whom many folks here may have considerable disagreement...but despite the very different backgrounds, the commonality of calling out state thuggery in uniform is refreshing.
ReplyDelete(And besides, there is some hope; they let a link to Claire Wolfe slip in. :-)
http://www.unknownnews.org/rwradicals.html
ReplyDeleteDavid, you might also want to take a look at this site which focuses only on police misconduct, and strives to build a body of data and statistics.
ReplyDeleteHis up-to-the-minute Twitter feed (you don't need to be on Twitter to browse) can be a particularly riling and depressing experience
Sean,
ReplyDeleteI think a lot of people see the injustices as inherent in police work. The people I talk to find inspiration in exploring alternative forms of policing, especially incorporating a civilian ran militia. Once that conversation begins, it's easy for people to envision a more responsive government and better way of keeping citizens safe.
Kevin,
I live in Portland, Oregon. Most of the activists I work with are hard-core socialists, animal rights activists, environmentalists, &c - between the small disagreements, there's so many principals everyone can agree on. Young radicals seek education; engage them in a dialog and you'll soon have an ally if you can make a better argument. I see so much demonizing of the "other" political party, it's only when we find common ground can we truly get anything done. Anti-establishment radicals love guns, too.
The sight is run by hard core lefties.
ReplyDeleteIt used to be that there was an anti-athoritarian, pro-civil-rights school of thought is that political spectrum.
Now if they could only understand that private property and fire arms are civil rights we could make progress.
rodger m
When the NRA and the ACLU unite, there will be progress. Problem is, I don't know in what direction...
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