Police allege deliveryman was killed for $100, pizzaI like the characterization of these reptiles as "high school students." Make's 'em sound just like Archie and Jughead.
Two of three arrested are high school students [More]
Chalk another one up for longstanding Domino's policy!
At what point could the civil case be made that their management "knew or should have known" something like this would happen?
Speaking for myself, I could never patronize a business that callously puts human beings in harm's way. If a driver got hurt or killed during a delivery to me, I'd wonder if he'd still be OK if I only hadn't called...
I note they're soliciting photographs for their new ad campaign.
Here's a good one.
And here's another.
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People in dodgy neighborhoods complain about "redlining," places where deliveries aren't dared. Heck, even the police won't go some places.
ReplyDeleteI haven't read about the perpetrators, but I bet there have been many previous opportunities to interdict their careers. Robbing and killing is just a sport anymore, called "gettin' a lick" in hoodspeak. And they want US helpless before these ... calling them predators is an insult to animals.
What's the deal? I can't carry a gun because I might lose THIS GREAT JOB if they find out?
Strange priorities. I blame the weapon-fearing loudmouths for conditioning people and the corporations for placing possible liabiity suits above people's lives.
Yes, some of the fault lies with Domino's Pizza, but really, can we completely exonerate the victim?
ReplyDeleteYour safety is in your hands at all times and places. Richel Nova was old enough to know that and old enough to have taken care of arming himself, company policy be damned.
"I like the characterization of these reptiles as "high school students."
ReplyDeleteAs someone who remembers high school, I'd say that it's a fairly good characterization. If the same laws enforced outside of high school were enforced inside of it, most high school students would end up in prison for lengthy sentences before the four years were up.
As for the victim, keep in mind where this happened--it's illegal to have the means to defend yourself there. That means that every time he left his home, he had to decide for himself which was more like: that he would need to defend himself, or that he would be set upon by cops who would arrest him for having the means to defend himself.
ReplyDeleteThis time it was the first, but given that he was poor and an immigrant from a Spanish-speaking country, the second was far more likely overall.
In the mid 90's I delivered pizza for Domino's. The rules were "no guns in your vehicle or on your person" but they never checked. I wonder what would have happened if they did? Curiously though, I was asked if I had been drinking when I was seen having a little trip up on the uneven pavement in front of the place.
ReplyDeleteI seriously wonder if you could make a liability case against Domino's for sending deliveries into bad neighborhoods with no protection.
ReplyDeleteToastrider, I think there's at least as much grounds to that in theory as there is to the idea of suing a company whose employee shot you in self-defense (which is why corporations have those policies).
ReplyDeleteTheory aside, though, the reality is that any such case would necessarily be heard in a government court, and the government is opposed to peasants defending themselves. I'd expect anyone trying to make such a liability case to run into nearly insurmountable opposition from the court system that would require far more money in legal fees than could ever be recovered in damages, even if that did eventually prove possible.
The problem with that is that multimillionaires very rarely work delivering pizza.
I think I am going to just do without Dominos dam pizza. So since they don't value the lives of the employees I can hardly believe they value the customers well being either. Not a good trait for someone selling you food.
ReplyDeleteWe need to get more laws to clearly state that an employer is NOT liable for the firearms-related actions of employees who are carrying legally--and also laws that specifically hold them responsible when they disallow carry.
ReplyDeleteFar as I know, NO national delivery chain allows their drivers to carry. I would be interested to know the largest chain that does allow carry--bet it isn't all that big. Or for that matter, the largest employer of any sort that doesn't ban carry.
Interesting. Guatemalan immigrant in L.A. was drunk and threatening people with a knife. In THIS case cop got there before he hurt anyone, was rushed by the guy and punched his ticket, permanently. 100 people assault the police station with rocks and eggs, say it's wrong to shoot an intoxicated person.
ReplyDeleteLAPD says bicycle cops can't carry all the non-lethal weapons cruisers can.
I guess I'd say if LA wasn't so down on people taking responsibility for their own safety, things might not have escalated to this point.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100908/ap_on_re_us/us_fatal_police_shooting