kalifornia gun stores are succeeding where the state NEVER could - They are making me sick and tired of buying guns. I have been collecting guns for 35 years. From the gunstore(s) I have watched the decline of the industry and freedom in general over that period of time.I think some gun store owners need to hear that. Amazing how being polite, interested and helpful seem to be some kind of great, impossible-to-master mystery for some, and how many people completely lacking in any kind of social skills are placed in customer service positions.
I am writing you as a kalifornia boiled frog.
I am sick and tired of doing business with, paying out money to, providing income for sullen, superior, can't give a crap petite federal agents operating gun stores. Let's face it, the owner of your local gun store and his employees are federal agents light. Instead of paying homage to the constitution for the right to operate a gun business in a "free country" They (at least in practice) suck up to the BATFU, State DOJ's and police at every level bending over backwards to satisfy government agents over their paying customers for fear of suffering the consequences. Make no mistake, the counter person at your local gun store is a fed light.
It is so hard to do gun business in kalifornia that as a customer you are a captive and your gun store knows it and treats you that way - like you have no choice, take it or leave it
Two recent experiences at kalifornia gun stores illustrate where the gun business is at in the state. Last week I purchased a Colt Gold Cup from a private party and met him at Marin Firearms in Novato to do the required private party transaction. The store personnel were frowning sullen people that could not care less about having a customer. At the end of the transaction the sales person took the gun out of the case and refused to use my case to hold it in the safe (for the required 10 days) unless I bought a case from him - which I did - the only money I will ever spend in his store ever again - I hope he made out on the sale. They also have a policy of making you wait 11 days to pick up a firearm because as long as you have to bend over anyway, being good little apparatchiks, they want you to bend over a little farther.
Again, yesterday at Irvington Arms in Fremont - picking up another Gold Cup, the sales person would not accept my lock, made me buy one for $10, refused to take it back when I wanted to return it and another sales person who had more than a dozen times accepted my lock, turned his back on me when I asked him to intercede - And I have purchased two dozen guns in this store and at least a dozen from this sales person over the last two years. AND HE TURNS HIS BACK ON ME!!! I Hope they made out on the $10 lock because they will never see a dollar from me again. Ever.
I'm a serious collector, a serious buyer and I am pretty damn easy. I am in my peak earning and spending years and I spend but.....Why should I help provide an income to people who are surly and contemptuous and act like they could care less if I did business in their store(s) or not? I'm sick of kalifornia gun stores. You apparently don't need my money - I don't NEED to buy your products, I got plenty, I'll hold, F*** you! If I treated my customers in the common manner of kalifornia gun stores I would be out of business by Christmas. (and I would not deserve the business I did get)
The fact is that gun stores give all the time and dignity in the world to counter sitters who read gun magazines and own no guns. The biggest group of alleged customers I see in gun store are the crowd whose "wife won't let me have one". They are there to remember what testosterone smells like. You don't see the real, repeat buyers at the gun store any more because they are in and out, have their paperwork together and don't hang out in what has become a hostile environment. The REAL gun buyers, the ones that value and understand the second amendment, the constitution and understand freedom and BUY LOTS OF GUNS come closest to witnessing freedoms loss with every visit to a kalifornia the gun store.
From what I see as a 35 year BUYER in the industry, I can only figure that kalifornia gun stores are counting on new customers and ripping off uninformed people selling their used guns in a state with nowhere else to go. The only reason to have a gun store in kalifornia seems to be to mine the state for collectibles to sell out of state and to sell plastic guns to the (must be) endless stream of new gun consumers. Regular buyers who spend real money repeatedly - they can go to hell. No inventory, polymer guns only, rigid fed representatives (store employees) - WHO NEEDS EM? F' em. I know why the business is dying.
Recently my daughter moved to Arizona and it is night and day. She has 14 gun stores within seven miles of her house - all of them friendly - all of them acting like they want your business - all of them having inventory!!! She can purchase a firearm and be out the door with it in 15 minutes from people who are happy to see her and happy to have her business. They return her calls!!
And while we're on the subject - This could not happen if kalifornia gun owners weren't in the majority such peer pressured pussies. We are where we are because kalifornia gun owners put up with it and allow it to happen.
All you have to do is look on Cal Gun to see gun owners who act like they have never seen a free market "Price is firm - no low ball offers" - "Price reduced". "Price reduced", "Price reduced" - "only 10 rounds down the tube fired by little old lady wearing gloves" - and my personal favorite, "If you don't buy it at this price it's going back in the safe". Are we such pussies that we are insulted by an offer? As adults don't we understand that the value of an item is "what a ready, willing buyer is willing to pay"? Not being on the kalifornia "approved list" doesn't make your gun a valuable or rare collectors item - Come back to earth!!!
I have to say that after years of the slow boiling that is putting up with kalifornia at every level, I am overcooked and dry and I am going to withhold my further participation (i.e. $$$$$) from the industry. I hope all the gun stores in kalifornia close, the owners go bankrupt and their personnel become unemployed.
Yours in total disgust,
Thursday, April 07, 2011
An Open Letter to Kalifornia Gun Stores
This just in from a friend who has had it:
Wow, that sure is a good way to turn customers into NON-customers!
ReplyDeleteI guess I'm lucky because the only store I go to is staffed with decent, friendly people who will go the extra mile to help you.
Same problem ever where you go people who dont care, ony want a pay check. had a gun shop in ark. treet me like scum .i only wanted to buy a 400.dollar pistol. how beneath them to sell a cheep gun. it wasnt worth there trouble to get off the stool. ridge runner arms u know who u r.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just Kalifornistan. I had problems like that in an eastern state. The gun store owners were, in general, so bitter and uninterested in me that I just stopped going in. And the gun shows weren't much better. All I could figure is that the paranoia due to federal harassment had gotten them down to the point they weren't enjoying their chosen line of work anymore.
ReplyDeleteDon't think that CA is alone with stores acting this way.
ReplyDeleteThe ones I've been into around me have been friendly for the most part, but with "Don't lie for the other guy." posters here and there. BATFU can go to hell.
ReplyDeleteDude, in a FREE market, the seller can set any price or stipulation that they want, they just can't complain when/if nobody wants to buy their product! A free market isn't "you'll sell it to me for whatever price I'm willing to pay!"
ReplyDeleteOne thing I know from watching the Cal Gun Firearms for sale forum 20 times a day, seven days a week is that any desirable firearm that is priced right is sold in 30 - 45 minutes. The rest go begging.
ReplyDeleteWhat you see a lot on Cal Gun is peole who start high, firm - tell you "how much they have into it" up front and further tell you not to make a low ball offer - then after they have bumped it ten times they offer a price reduction, another price reduction, a final price reduction and then a "buy it at this price or it's going back in the safe"
I realize Cal Gun does not let you ask for bids or high offers but the idea that if an informed buyer makes a reasonable offer that he is willing to close on definite terms he is profering an insult is becoming epidemic in this state.
Gun collectors are seriously disadvantaged in kalifornia and to pay kalifornia prices for used guns as if they are more precious here than 50 feet accross the border of Nevada, Oregon or Arizona - or 44 other states is foolish or rather - for fools.
Fight islam Now
Texas has got that problem, mostly at Bass Pro, and Cabelas. They stock guns of a military utility, but hate it. It shows in their attitude, and what kind and how much of the accouterments they have on hand. I have heard them talk to each other, well within hearing about how they don't need them black assault rifles or any other trash like it. Sportsmans warehouse should have gone like gangbusters here, but they folded in three years. That goofy attitude, and the $300 light jackets with the name brand logo did them in fast. CTD is the best place to go, but they are not cheap, and they have a deranged relationship between the "Outdoor Adventure" part of the store, and the "Cheaper Than Dirt" warehouse, both in the same building. Be warned also, DPMS is producing trigger kits that are made of substandard materiel, with the disconnector showing split ends in the metal. I got one like that, called them, and they sent me a free replacement, with EXACTLY the same problem.
ReplyDeleteI understand what he is saying but I have zero sympathy for him. Let me explain; I refuse to by any guns from IL because that state has lead along with a few other states to attack the Second Amendment. I don't care how well made guns and parts are from companies from that state. These gun companies pay taxes that feed the freeloading anti-American folks who push their communist agenda. I will not allow one penny of my money to go to companies that pay taxes to such a state government run by such people.
ReplyDeleteThe same can be said for the writer of this post that David has put up. My point is, this is still a free country in a lot of ways and this man can vote with his feet. If he is in the prime of his income earning, then he is paying a lot of tax money to the very people that have made his life what it is. He needs to suck it up and move to where his daughter is now living and put CA behind him. In the meantime, every penny he pays in any tax in CA is throwing gasoline on the very fire he's upset with.