NRA PUSHES GUN CONTROL – JEOPARDIZES CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY [More]Let the debates begin...
[Via Evan Nappen]
UPDATE: Zach in comments directs us to NRA's rebuttal.
[Note: This is one of the posts from May 12 that vanished with the Blogger crash. It looks like they are gradually restoring them to our unpublished list for reposting. I'm sorry, but any comments made before the crash have vanished.]
I can see why PGNH is upset if the NH Senate adopts the altered bill and the whole thing dies. I read the NRA modifications, and they actually ARE an improvement, so I don't know why the NH House rejected it.
ReplyDeleteIs it just that the NRA can't stand not being the center of attention to the point that they're willing to torpedo a good possibility of advancing gun rights? Or was the original bill so fatally flawed that the NRA recognized it as a danger? Why would they do something like this?
...and they were expecting what exactly from the NRA to start with?
ReplyDeleteBastards...
They did the same crap in Georgia...TWICE. I tossed my NRA card several years ago.
ReplyDeleteThat's precisely what the NRA did in South Carolina.
ReplyDeleteHere's what happened.
One very conservative, and constitutionalist South Carolina representative sponsored a substantial overhaul of our concealed carry laws, legalizing open carry, and making the permit system optionsl like those in both Arizona and Alaska.
The NRA met with the sub-committee chairman, they got a private meeting that our in state organization, GrassRoots GunRights, could not get and wrote their own version of our bill. The sub-committee chairman then presented that revised bill as his own amendment and took that to the full judiciary committee.
We raised such hell about that that the full committee returned the bill to the sub-committee who promptly tabled it. Until we eliminate the problem child on that sub-committee, it's not likely to be considered.
The NRA IS the largest gun control organization in America, without doubt.
On the day all unconstitutional gun laws disappear NRA and its jefe for life have nothing left. NRA needs pukes like Obama as much as Obama needs pukes like those in the NRA's head shed.
ReplyDeleteI just don't know anymore. I have a love/hate relationship with the NRA. They pushed for constitutional carry in Wyoming and Montana and won, but not to keen on it in Wisconsin. It's also reported they're derailing Open Carry legislation in Florida and Texas. At the same time, they've done wonderful things here in Fl with self defense laws almost perfect, strong preemption, no "emergency confiscation" etc. They're a mystery.
ReplyDeleteNRA responds to accusations
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=6762
It's almost as if the NRA just can't help themselves ...
ReplyDeleteThe rebuttal makes sense, but...
ReplyDeleteSo what if the permit won't allow for NICs exception?
So what if the permit would "technicall allow minors to carry"?
So what if the permit didn't have a training requirement for reciprocity?
So what about their other concerns?
Get the points on the board, pass the bill and then let NH make those calls. They can "fix" them as they see the need.
I speak from the experience of Alaska, we went from no cc permits in 1993 to Alaska Carry (better than Vermont as it retains permits for wider reciprocity) in just under a decade. We passed the shall-issue law that would pass and then incrementally improved it.
That's how we're gonna win in most states, not letting the "perfect" (in NRA's or any other's eyes) be the enemy of the "good for right now with planned improvements to come".
Right now the best thing we can do to show the overwhelming momentum of pro-gun rights in the states is to pass (almost) anything we can wherever and however we can.
It's always easier to tweak an existing narrower than we'd prefer law than to pass a broad new one and it's even harder for the other guys to get rid of a law once it's on the books.
Let's get expanded carry laws on the books, even compromise ones, to demonstrate the idea is sound in places with push-back and then make them better over time.