He said "No," but ducked the specifics of "why not," particularly in light of an issue position statement he says diverges from the Libertarian line (but not by much if you look at it):
The cliché is true, we are a Nation of immigrants. Sections of our economy depend on the service and hard work of those who find their way into our borders. This work is done in secret and under duress for both the immigrant and the employer. I want to streamline the work visa system, and enable thousands of immigrants from all nations to gain a visa easily and quickly. I would also include a correction period for all employers and immigrants who have been working and living in the US outside of the law to become compliant with the new visa program. The tax base would be increased, expense of deportation and persecution would be decreased, stress and loss of life would be tremendously decreased. There are solutions, but we have to be willing to stop and realize what we are doing today is not an answer.My position, a topic I've written about numerous times, is the same as GOA's, but I did not get a chance make it known on the air. Rather than repeat myself, I'm going to share the email Russn8r sent me after the broadcast:
Enquiring minds want to know. If he wants to address these questions, I'll post his answers. I would expect Russn8r to be watching, evaluating and weighing in, and I am not able to selectively soften his comments the way I just did to his email."Find their way into our borders.""Correction period" for employers and "immigrants" who have been "outside the law".Good grief, what a double-talking...
Jess Loban dodged the real issues, hand-waving about allegedly being "more right" than the typical libertarian, and about how we need a workable "guest" worker program and how states should be allowed to enforce their borders... Unless the invaders manage to break in, and then they get amnesty -- er uh, I mean a "correction period". So what does his support for border enforcement mean? Nothing. His answer was inconsistent with his website statement, and he doesn't explain how a "guest" worker program stops the native born citizenry's voting control of the USA from being overwhelmed by immigrants and their kids who will continue to vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
Would he limit legal immigration so that our votes are not overwhelmed?
Does he propose a true guest worker program where they really are guests and they have to go home?
If they're "guests" as opposed to guests who actually have to go home, would he make them second class citizens who can never vote, so that our votes are not overwhelmed?
Would he abolish birthright citizenship so that our votes are not overwhelmed by the children of the guests or "guests"?
That's not what his website says.
Thanks. Of course, Loban's not the problem. Fortunately the L in "Libertarian" stands for LOSER.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately it also stands for Lossmaker. "Libertarians" invariably lose, pretty much by design, but they also serve to ensure the election of Democrats and the defeat of real Republicans. I say that having been a Paleo-Libertarian (Paleo Ls support borders, strict quantitative and qualitative immigration controls, and sovereignty) and having run several Libertarian congressional campaigns in the early 1980s. "Libertarians" are to the R Party as the "Peace & Freedom", Green, & Communist Parties are to the D Party.
Another problem is gun owners coming away from the program thinking open immigration's not so bad.
Neo-"Libertarians" should really be trolling for support with Democrats, not Republicans, not on conservative talk shows, since their open-immigration policies are ensuring inevitable mass gun confiscation within 20 years, overwhelming the native born vote with imported Democrats, ensuring the loss of all the legislatures in every state in the USA (as has already happened in California and for the same reason), and the loss of the courts, and the roll-back of any legislative or judicial gains that have been made over the last decade.
Russn8r
Hoppe and Rothbard agree with your post, while Koch brothers backed cato clowns do not.
DeleteThe Big "El" Libertarians have become such a joke that liberty minded folks who used to identify as libertarians are now self-identifying as something else.
ReplyDeleteWhen Howard Stern won a Libertarian primary, it was all over for me.
My brother won't vote Big El, and tells me that in CA, the Libertarians are now the party of gays and drug users.
Way back when, it seemed like a good idea. Now, "Libertarians" can't even square illegal immigration with the libertarian position on private property and the natural law against of trespass.
Oh - it's OK if they trespass on YOUR property, but not on theirs, ya see.
It's also OK that they usurp your rights by "finding themselves here."
When Libertarians have become masters of Doublespeak, they deserve to go back into mommy's basement and complain amongst themselves along with their dope smoking buddies.
Defending Our Culture from the Invaders:
ReplyDeletehttp://ncc-1776.org/tle2014/tle783-20140810-03.html
Jesus, who let the retard in?
ReplyDeleteRight Paul, everyone who wants to keep our country, sovereignty, borders and limits on immigration, is a racist.
ReplyDeleteNice try.