Tuesday, January 10, 2006

The Price of Liberty

In Gary, IN, it's apparently $50.
Baptist ministers across northwestern Indiana are trying something new to encourage residents to give up their guns. Under the program, residents will get a 50-dollar voucher for groceries or clothing in exchange for giving up their guns. The program is the idea of Pastor Dwight Gardner, the newly elected chairman of the Baptist Ministers Conference of Gary.
There's nothing "new" about these moronic tool surrender programs, and Gary is about the last place I'd want to be caught without a gun.

In the words of a 1747 Philadelphia sermon:
"He that suffers his life to be taken from him by one who has no authority for that purpose, when he might preserve it by defense, incurs the Guilt of self murder since God has enjoined him to seek the continuance of his life, and Nature itself teaches every creature to defend [it]self."
The ability of these pathetic ministers in Gary to openly preach their nonsense was secured by men willing to defend their rights--with guns. And you can only wonder at the type of wretch who would trade in a right secured by the blood of others for a gift certificate.

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3 comments:

  1. David C., can you give me an attribution for the excerpt from the 1747 sermon. I try vainly to make that point to the falsely pious, but am dismissed as ignorant of the God's will. It would be nice to quote the excerpt from a real person with the credentials to make that statement. My credentials in that area are a little smudged.

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  2. straightarrow--in terms of who the minister was, I do not know. I've sewen this quote cited by Jeffrey Snyder and Dave Kopel. Legal cites (and sorry, don't have time to make links active) are (add the "http" to url's--it's running off my page if I include it):

    guncite.com/journals/nj9th.html

    BEYOND THE SECOND AMENDMENT: AN
    INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO ARMS VIEWED THROUGH
    THE NINTH AMENDMENT
    Nicholas J. Johnson

    [119] Kates, Original Meaning, supra note 2, at 229-30. Kates offers the following quotation from a 1747 Philadelphia sermon in support:
    He that suffers his life to be taken from him by one that hath no authority for that purpose, when he might preserve it by defense, incurs the Guilt of self murder since God hath enjoined him to seek the continuance of his life, and Nature itself teaches every creature to defend himself....

    guncite.com/journals/kmich.html#pg229
    HANDGUN PROHIBITION AND THE
    ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE SECOND
    AMENDMENT
    Don B. Kates, Jr
    [109] See, e.g., 3 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *4 ("Self-Defense, therefore, as it is justly called the primary law of nature, so it is not, neither can it be, in fact, taken away by the law of society."); T. Hobbes, Leviathan 88, 95 (1964) ("a covenant not to defend myselfe from force by force is always voyd"); Halbrook, supra note 10, discussion at text accompanying notes 56-78 supra (unpaginated manuscript) (analyzing views of Sidney and Locke). English and American divines went further still, declaring self-defense not simply a right but an obligation as well:
    He that suffers his life to be taken from him by one that hath no authority for that purpose, when he might preserve it by defense, incurs the Guilt of self murder since God hath enjoined him to seek the continuance of his life, and Nature itself teaches every creature to defend himself ....
    C. Asbury, supra note 10, at 39-40 (quoting a 1747 Philadelphia sermon); see also id. at 28 (English writers making the same point at the time of the Glorious Revolution).

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  3. Obviously the 'Pastor' hasn't studied up on just WHO HE is supposed to be serving! The way I understand the LORD I serve is as follows;

    Exodus 15:3; The LORD [is] a man of war: the LORD [is] his name.

    Hebrews 13:8; Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    And from the mouth of Jesus Himself;
    Luke 22:36 KJV - Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one".

    Wonder who this Pastors 'master' really is?

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