John "Lautenberg, AW Ban Renewal" McCain would be the FOURTH choice of this confirmed ex-Republican. I'd vote for Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and the Communist Party USA candidate (Their stated platform says they have no plans to push for additional gun control at this time) before him. John Adams: "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and your vote is never wasted."
At a press conference with U.S. Rep. Mark Kirk on gun-control, Bloomberg spoke positively about Barack Obama's position on guns, but he also praised John McCain. "I have known John McCain a lot longer than I have known Sen. Obama," he said. "I can say nothing but good things about Sen. McCain."
Are there really gun rights advocates who would vote for the man whom Bloomberg "can say nothing but good things" about?
My problem with voting for who I want, Ron Paul, is that by taking a vote from McCain I might be helping to elect a communist. Things seem to go downhill much faster and easier than they go up or in the right direction. So, electing BO might be more of a disaster than we already think.
Kent, that's an interesting way to look at it. But, by that measure, who are you voting for and how will you feel when your guy doesn't get elected?
I can't stand by and allow Obama to be elected.
Maybe I'm way off base...and if so, I'd expect someone to set me straight. But, "McCain=socialist=communist=socialist=Obama" doesn't solve any or begin to solve the problem.
I am writing in my own name. (KentForLiberty.com) I know "my guy" won't get elected, but since I have no one else that I can vote for and not "hate myself in the morning", it is just the way it is. I absolutely refuse to ever again vote for "the lesser of 2 (or 3) evils".
I must give you, that yours is a principled stance. But, I will feel guilty for four, eight, or (in Obama's words) ten years if that schmuck gets in. I might have to reconcile with that down the road, I don't know. But until then, I am just voting against Obama. Who that vote will be for, remains to be seen, I guess.
Principles have always been inconvenient, and principled people have always paid a price for their lack of "pragmatism," "flexibility," or "incrementalism." They've always been accused of "absolutism," "legalism," "radicalism," or whatever the pejorative of the day may be.
Trouble is, in the long run, principles always work better than relativism, just as freedom always works better than despotism. Unfortunately, in todays world of short-term profit and immediate gratification, few are willing to look that far into the future.
I'm going to be infuriated if Obama wins and destroys our Second Amendment rights, but it won't comfort me if McCain does the same thing. That's why I'm voting for Ron Paul and stocking up on guns, ammo, reloading supplies, food, water, and medicine right now.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Another way of saying: "Want peace? Prepare for war."
I think the Republican party deserves an Obama presidency.
If we keep electing their lesser evil, will we get a chance to elect any other kind?
That said, I do have it easy here in IL. I know that not voting for McCain won't make a difference anyway, so maybe I don't have to have to courage of my convictions.
Let's consider Poland for a moment. Bush offers them a Patriot missile defense system, like the one that mostly protected Israel from Saddam's Scuds. Of course they'll like Bush's heir apparent. But at the same time, McCain states straight out that he doesn't trust his own countrymen with firearms of military usefulness. One person does something bad, and the other 99 have to lose their right. To McCain,the Bill of Rights is more like guidelines, really. Obama is McCain only faster. If everyone who hesitates to vote third party because it might throw the election to the greater evil would go ahead and get behind Paul or Baldwin, yes, we might still lose. Probably so. But we will be heard. And next time, more people will know about the better alternatives. And then, more after that. I hope we'll all try it just once and see. Doing the usual has led us to a point in history where two losers are all major party voters have to choose from.
John "Lautenberg, AW Ban Renewal" McCain would be the FOURTH choice of this confirmed ex-Republican. I'd vote for Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and the Communist Party USA candidate (Their stated platform says they have no plans to push for additional gun control at this time) before him.
ReplyDeleteJohn Adams: "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and your vote is never wasted."
Good Lord--even Bloomberg likes McCain:
ReplyDeleteAt a press conference with U.S. Rep. Mark Kirk on gun-control, Bloomberg spoke positively about Barack Obama's position on guns, but he also praised John McCain.
"I have known John McCain a lot longer than I have known Sen. Obama," he said. "I can say nothing but good things about Sen. McCain."
Are there really gun rights advocates who would vote for the man whom Bloomberg "can say nothing but good things" about?
Not "gun rights advocates", but "pragmatists". Or "quislings".
ReplyDeleteWell the Poles must see something that isn't there in McCain. As for me and Poles, we are poles apart in our assessment of the man.
ReplyDeleteMcCain has one thing going for him: He's not Obama.
ReplyDeleteBloomturds' opinion is worthless, he's also a RINO whose ego knows no bounds.
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ReplyDeleteMy problem with voting for who I want, Ron Paul, is that by taking a vote from McCain I might be helping to elect a communist. Things seem to go downhill much faster and easier than they go up or in the right direction. So, electing BO might be more of a disaster than we already think.
ReplyDeleteMcCain=socialist=communist=socialist=Obama
ReplyDeleteKent, that's an interesting way to look at it. But, by that measure, who are you voting for and how will you feel when your guy doesn't get elected?
ReplyDeleteI can't stand by and allow Obama to be elected.
Maybe I'm way off base...and if so, I'd expect someone to set me straight. But, "McCain=socialist=communist=socialist=Obama" doesn't solve any or begin to solve the problem.
Maybe I'm just confused...
I am writing in my own name. (KentForLiberty.com) I know "my guy" won't get elected, but since I have no one else that I can vote for and not "hate myself in the morning", it is just the way it is. I absolutely refuse to ever again vote for "the lesser of 2 (or 3) evils".
ReplyDeleteI must give you, that yours is a principled stance. But, I will feel guilty for four, eight, or (in Obama's words) ten years if that schmuck gets in. I might have to reconcile with that down the road, I don't know. But until then, I am just voting against Obama. Who that vote will be for, remains to be seen, I guess.
ReplyDeleteBut at this juncture will most likely be fore McCain.
ReplyDeletePrinciples have always been inconvenient, and principled people have always paid a price for their lack of "pragmatism," "flexibility," or "incrementalism." They've always been accused of "absolutism," "legalism," "radicalism," or whatever the pejorative of the day may be.
ReplyDeleteTrouble is, in the long run, principles always work better than relativism, just as freedom always works better than despotism. Unfortunately, in todays world of short-term profit and immediate gratification, few are willing to look that far into the future.
I'm going to be infuriated if Obama wins and destroys our Second Amendment rights, but it won't comfort me if McCain does the same thing. That's why I'm voting for Ron Paul and stocking up on guns, ammo, reloading supplies, food, water, and medicine right now.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Another way of saying: "Want peace? Prepare for war."
I think the Republican party deserves an Obama presidency.
ReplyDeleteIf we keep electing their lesser evil, will we get a chance to elect any other kind?
That said, I do have it easy here in IL. I know that not voting for McCain won't make a difference anyway, so maybe I don't have to have to courage of my convictions.
Let's consider Poland for a moment. Bush offers them a Patriot missile defense system, like the one that mostly protected Israel from Saddam's Scuds.
ReplyDeleteOf course they'll like Bush's heir apparent.
But at the same time, McCain states straight out that he doesn't trust his own countrymen with firearms of military usefulness. One person does something bad, and the other 99 have to lose their right.
To McCain,the Bill of Rights is more like guidelines, really.
Obama is McCain only faster.
If everyone who hesitates to vote third party because it might throw the election to the greater evil would go ahead and get behind Paul or Baldwin, yes, we might still lose. Probably so. But we will be heard. And next time, more people will know about the better alternatives. And then, more after that.
I hope we'll all try it just once and see. Doing the usual has led us to a point in history where two losers are all major party voters have to choose from.