“Firearms are routinely being transported from the U.S. into Mexico in violation of both U.S. and Mexican law,” William Hoover, assistant director of field operations for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), told the subcommittee. [More]If that's true, it does kind of show you how well those laws work at stopping bad guys, doesn't it?
I truly am tired of these opportunistic functionaries.
Hey Bill--tell me which gun store or "damned American gun show" I can go to to pick up a few cases of full-auto battle rifles and grenades.
One north of the border, I mean.
[Via Dave Licht]
There's a mandatory prison sentence for possession of a gun in Mexico -- maybe where the NRA got the idea for Project Exile.
ReplyDeleteStating that *U.S.* gun laws are the problem speeds that devolution of our sovereignty that will lead to the North American Union, in which the freer country (us) adopts the level of socialist laws of the Third-World nations that comprise the rest of the Union. With bigger and more government, liberty always trends downward.
I am disgusted that more people care about efforts to slow global warming and save the polar bear -- that's propaganda too -- than are concerned with their basic human rights. Well, THEIR rights have yet to be whittled away. Not while there can be Resistance. Gun rights are the canary in the coal mine. Some people won't pay attention to the canary falling over, saying that the canary no longer serves a purpose, with modern gas detectors (our military including the National Guard) and breathing apparatus (our police). They'll be a mile deep in the mine shaft and only then find out there's nothing between them and the invisible, insidious unbreathable dark.
Send General Pershing across the border to chase down the banditos and stop the violence.
ReplyDeleteOops, sorry. Wrong century.
Isn't it a crime of perjury to lie to Congress? If the NRA really wanted to do something isn't that the drum they should be beating?
ReplyDeleteIt isn't like the proof of the lie is equivocal.
This should be right up the NRA's alley. Somebody else already did the heavy lifting and this bastard's testimony is demonstrably a lie.
If my comment is approved at the website I will copy and paste it here. I encourage everyone to go over there and educate those readers who to date have only heard the false side of this story.
ReplyDeleteSenator Durbin's e-mail form is available on his website. A simple Google search will bring it up. I suggest we all send him a copy of the LA Times article from March 15th. (The one you have linked in the earlier War On Guns post. Sent to you by Len Savage.)
ReplyDeleteActually, I heard that American gun shops are supplying Mexican cartels with the giant and deadly Dictator class starships that can fire phasers from the Andromeda Galaxy to Earth targets with pinpoint accuracy LOL
ReplyDeleteAnd I also heard that the Earth is flat too. LMAO!
I go to gun shows in Arizona all the time to stock up on grenades, RPGs, machine guns, land mines, etc.
ReplyDeleteOf course no ATF agents are ever at these "terrorist bazaars"
Then this stuff is simply shilled over the borders to drug lords.
Wow. There are, apparently, actually people who BELIEVE this - and spout it to the media. Then the media - you know, those dedicated "fact checkers," parrot this stuff.
Did I mention that some people actually BELIEVE this?
No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public...
they published it, and some other comments too that were very good. go, look
ReplyDeleteWe have been hearing this lie for several months now, but not one serial number of any firearm has been made available to the subcommittee. The type of weapons they routinely say are flowing south through our borders aren't even manufactured here. RPG's, Korean hand grenads, and fully automatic machine guns which are manufactured here and only available to law enforcement and the Department of Defense if their date of manufacture is post 1986. Any American made machine guns in the hands of the drug cartels were sold to them by the Mexican military which we did supply with such arms. Nobody can buy one at a gun show or gun shop subject the GCA 86 law. Those manufactured prior to 1986 cost thousands and thousands of dollars due their legislated artificial rarity. Drug cartels are not buying those items at collector prices when they can get them from other markets for 1% to 2% of the cost. Hoover lied, Durbin lied. That is perjury and it was conducted in halls of Congress
i still cannot fathom the belief that somehow groups of criminals that routinely smuggle TONS of narcotics across multiple international borders will somehow be hindered if US laws on guns get harsher?
ReplyDeleteThe firearms being identified as coming from the US are mostly handguns that Mexican workers buy here legally then smuggle back to friends and acquaintances when they go back home to visit. Mexican gun laws make it almost impossible for the average citizen to legally own a gun so they have figured out alternatives.
ReplyDeleteOf course the Mexican government would like us to stop this traffic as they are deathly afraid of their people being armed.
The cartels on the other hand are getting their military class weapons either from government supplied black market deals or international arms traders. Two separate issues linked only in the minds of US gun banners and our typically disingenuous media.