Friday, October 28, 2016

Some Random Thoughts on the Malheur Verdicts

I know there was a juror rights education effort going on .

Alternatively, with revelations of the group being riddled with CIs, and with folks like Mike Vanderboegh smelling provocateurs from the outset, I can't shake a nagging feeling that the government had a vested interest in making sure embedded assets weren't convicted along with the rest of the group. There's no way they could obtain selective verdicts without raising and confirming suspicions.

In either case, the verdicts are of little comfort to the family of LaVoy Finicum.

4 comments:

Pat H. said...

The informants involved need to be identified and outed publicly to nullify their use in the future.

TimeHasCome said...

I think the LaVoy family will be overjoyed on the jury verdict . If you read Fincum's book " Only by Blood " he lived and died his book . He even had his boots on .Contemporary Americans have a very immature view of death . We value those that soil themselves in their 90s in nursing homes but those that live and breath and die for what they believe in as odd .

Archer said...

And then there was the revelation that one of the jurors was a former BLM employee. How that got past voir dire (juror selection), I have no idea (I pulled jury duty last week, and upon checking in they handed us two forms: one for compensation/mileage, and one general background, including job/employer - they should have known). It only came to light when a second juror heard comments from that one and passed a note to the judge.

That would be grounds for a mistrial, but the judge denied it.

That said, the jury deliberated for two weeks before replacing that juror, and had a unanimous "not guilty" within a day afterward, which makes me think he/she was a hold-out "guilty" vote. But that's pure speculation.

My question at this point: With the Malheur facility being a federal "gun-free zone", and the protesters carrying firearms into the building, and there being no exemption for protests, the prosecutors should have had them dead-to-rights on the firearms charges, yet the jury voted to acquit. Does this effectively count as nullification, or did the jury merely find the circumstances extenuating enough to find an exemption despite there being none in the written statute?

Not expecting an answer here, but it's something to think about.

Anonymous said...

Actually Malheur wasn't a gun free zone :https://www.fws.gov/refuge/Malheur/visit/rules_and_regulations.html

It says you can carry according to state and local law, and Oregon is an open carry state.