Monday, December 31, 2007

Breaching the Wall

Two-thirds of the guns gathered Saturday were dropped off at Shiloh Baptist Church on 9th Street in Northwest, one of the three locations where the department held the collections, according to police.
So apparently the great "wall of separation" between church and state we hear so much about doesn't apply to ideologies like all-powerful government worship...?

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

AK-22? AR-14??

Gotta get me one of each!!

If they exist, that is...

Anonymous said...

Could've been a Mitchell Arms AK-22?

Anyway, it's always been more of a diode than a wall, whereby the "free exercise" clause is generally ignored by one party, or the others claim:

--
/* constitution.c */

#include<natural_rights.h>
#include<article_i.h>
#include<article_ii.h>
#include<article_iii.h>
#include<article_iv.h>
#include<article_v.h>
#include<article_vi.h>
#include<article_vii.h>
#include<bill_of_rights.h>
#include<bible.h>

/* We're a Christian Nation, amirite guys? */
...
--

Sentenza said...

I've always thought that "Congress" in the 1st Amendment referred to "Congress" and not "every single level of federal, state, and local government."

I'm so glad that they got the USS Cadmus off of the streets too.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to be polite, just on the off chance that Scaramouche is a friend. So I'm just asking for clarification in case his post is too cryptic for my simplex understanding.

My understanding is that Congress makes law, and "every single level of federal, state, and local government," acts to enforce that law, and is SUPPOSED to be limited by the law. Isn't that right? Are you suggesting that, even though Congress shall make no law, lower levels of government and bureaucracy CAN make those laws?

I don't understand the reference to the USS Cadmus, either. That ship got sold to Taiwan in 1974.

Please note that I'm being respectful. It's not that easy for me.

Anonymous said...

In case you wonder David, the following quote from Shiloh Baptist's website tells the whole story of their cooperation with the DC government

"With a practical and often humorous style of speaking that combines thorough biblical scholarship and "girlfriend" wit, Reverend Jacqueline Thompson speaks directly to the hearts and minds of people from all walks of life, helping them discover their purpose and destiny in Christ."

The problem here is the blatant and gross violation of Scripture, which leads to the gross violation of their purpose on this earth. If a church will not follow the Scriptures, don’t expect them to follow the Constitution or have a right understanding of their relationship to the government.

Specifically, the above quote shows a clear violation of two provisions in Scripture:

This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; . . . (I Timothy 3:1-2)

For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. (Titus 1:5-6)

Try as hard as I might, she cannot pass for a man.

Now, the fact that she (and many others) have decided that it is necessary to be called “Reverend” is a presumption that is extremely unwise. The word “reverend” is only used one time in the Scripture, and in clear reference to the LORD God:

He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever. (Psalm 111:9-10)

The underlying word means “to fear,” “be afraid of,” and “stand in awe of.” None of these terms should ever be applied to man. To do so is to violate the 1st commandment. The following verse gives another usage of the underlying word:

Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. (Leviticus 19:30)

Since they really don’t fear and respect the LORD whom they claim to serve, do you really expect them to regard the Constitution?

BTW, there is not a single proper Baptist preacher that I know of that supports gun control, buybacks, or other such nonsense.