Monday, August 18, 2008

And Remember: "They" Hate Us Because We're Free!

The Justice Department has proposed a new domestic spying measure that would make it easier for state and local police to collect intelligence about Americans, share the sensitive data with federal agencies and retain it for at least 10 years.
Yay! Thanks, "Vote Freedom First" President! Soon we can be just as sophisticated and Europeany and everything as our British cousins!

[Via Plug Nickel Times]

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

To Hell with Mukasey, I don't want to be "kept safe". I prefer the dangers of liberty.

Anonymous said...

"The proposed changes would revise the federal government's rules for police intelligence-gathering for the first time since 1993 and would apply to any of the nation's 18,000 state and local police agencies that receive roughly $1.6 billion each year in federal grants."

Anyone even a little familiar with the construction of our government should be shocked and appalled by this sentence. I'm not even thinking of the "spying" part.

Anonymous said...

The latest trend is to attach GPS trackers to cars without a warrant or court order, and that's WITHOUT this spying permission slip.
Bill Clinton could only DREAM of this...
Vote third party or vote for more of the same.
Assuming voting matters anymore.

Anonymous said...

"Assuming voting matters anymore."

It has been suggested that - if voting actually changed anything, it would be illegal.

Voting merely affirms consent - imo.

Sean said...

I don't think voting,writing our rulers(they stopped being representatives a long time ago) petitoning any of Them, the courts, or legislature, any of it, is any more than pissing into the wind. If you ain't got a pile of money, influence, media,power, you ain't got nothing that will make them even listen to you. They got the juice and we don't, simple as that. We are the well educated,well fed,clothed,housed, and groomed Eloi, and there is not one damned thing that the Morelocks ALLOW us to do that will change the game. Think about that last sentence. As long as we're comfortable, they KNOW we'll be good. But we damn sure better produce. And we damn sure better not try to steer our children clear of their little system. To paraphrase Steinham, we're in a comfortable concentration camp. That's what failed before. No one wanted to be in those camps because they were so horrible. The one we're in now, are so reasonable, comfortable, easy. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked. And the system we're in seldom forces us to act, but instead, we're restrained in a thousand different ways from acting at all. There are millions of laws,edicts,etc, that even the most brilliant minds cannot penetrate or rise above. In the end, we are obediant sheep, and our "government", the master. I borrowed a lot of that from some famous persons quoted over at Keep and Bear Arms, don't recollect exactly who said it, Heinlein maybe. But that's it. That's where we are, right now. Forget anger, rage, and the RCOB, I'm quiet now.

Anonymous said...

Well said, Sean.
The Price of Free Corn" describes it well. How to tame the wild hog with a minimum of effort: feed them, then start building a fence one post at a time while they're away. When you have everything but the gate, they'll still be going in and out so they won't be concerned. Then you close the gate.
Dr. Ruth Westheimer, the little "Good Sex" adviser, was a sniper for the Allies in World War II. Julia Child, TV's "The French Chef," spied for the U.S. Office of Strategic Services, forerunner of the CIA, back when our government was still the good guys. I imagine they were well outside their comfort zones. They SAW the necessity of SOMEONE doing it.
We are not Britain, we are not Australia, we are not Tibet. It will not be easy for them here, when they decide to show the face behind the mask.

tjbbpgob said...

Sean, thats the best I've heard it said on any of these blogs.