Sunday, March 22, 2009

Gun Control in Action

Jordan said Mixon had an "extensive criminal history" and was wanted on a no-bail warrant.

"(Mixon) was on parole and he had a warrant out for his arrest for violating that parole. And he was on parole for assault with a deadly weapon," said Oakland police Deputy Chief Jeffery Israel.[More]
So wasn't it illegal for him to have guns? And carry them? And have an "assault weapon"? And kill?

Looks like it's time to disarm you and me some more.

But here's the real thing to keep our eye on:
About 20 bystanders taunted police.
There is an undercurrent of seething hatred. It's a powder keg out there. The citizen militia may yet need to discover itself when things explode.

Howard Nemerov
has more.

[Via Mama Liberty]

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

I can't say I am happy that these officers died at the hands of this monster, but as for the taunting of the other officers at the first scene, that is strictly a case of chickens coming home to roost.

Such is the relationship the police themselves have fostered. People no longer respect them, and with good cause.

Anonymous said...

and of course, the cops and the politicians will now make the situation worse by calling for the punishment and denial of rights for all those thousands, perhaps millions, of people not involved.

Anonymous said...

It is the oppressive heat and humidity before the storm breaks.

Seething hatred is right, the taunts symbolize the loathing that the public has for these "Only Ones", especially after the New Years Day execution of an unarmed man on the Metro.

If these politicians start calling for denial of rights and things like that, that will really escalate the storm.

tom said...

Straightarrow:

I have friends that are good guys in the Peace Officer business, notice I did not say Law Endorsement Officers. Oath-Keaper types.

It's a shame all around for everyone is all I'll say. Both for gun owners and Peace Officers. Both what happened in Oakland and the Us vs Them attitude that has been fostered in most US Police Agencies.

Curious how a SWAT entry team could "f" up so bad when they knew the person was inside and armed too. It's quite possible they didn't use flash bangs or tear gas to try to not worsen the uneasy relations between Police and Citizens in Oakland by causing any collateral damage and injury, thereby trying to NOT BE STORMTROOPERS might have been what got the 2 SWAT team members killed.

One of my Peace Officer friends is on the local tactical team and the M-79s and M-203s always precede the sort of dynamic entry if there's any question.

Just a shame all around.

As my tactical team friend says and some III people seem to forget: "Not all cops are assholes, it's a career that draws a higher percentage of them than many others and many departments actively seek out aggressive assholes because politically the government has been heavily militarizing them, but there are plenty of good officers too."

He has also said: "In my job, arresting people and writing tickets is like throwing darts where every dart is a bullseye if that's how I choose to play it. I can find a reason to arrest, ticket, or detain anybody if you give me a moments thought. But I don't. That's not my job. My job is to serve the Citizenry, not harass them."

Take that as you will.

Anonymous said...

In the city near me, the mad-dog criminals still get parole after long records of violence. The jail is at 200% of capacity with most incarcerated for simple possession of drugs or small-time selling. The system is set up that way. Men whose names are on court buildings and who are supposedly Constitution experts set it up. Most of them don't like The People having too many choices or too much power. Gerrymandered voting districts, gun control, Socialist social engineering. Violent crime is the ultimate in income redistribution.

Anonymous said...

I live in Ca and the sad part of this is we voted in a 3 strikes law years ago as soon as the news media and liberals got their "poster child" one that got a long sentence for stealing some pizza they went about article after article denouncing 3 strikes and so its has been about eliminated thru activist judges and legislators. Now we pickup a newspaper to read about a shooting or other violent crime that almost always states he was on parole and had a history of felonies..As far as I am concerned the "news media" has plenty of blood on its hands, but all they will call for is more "gun control" instead of a return to a strong 3 strikes and out.

Anonymous said...

Three-strikes is no solution, either. There are many who believe it could also encourage second-strikers to make their next crime much more heinous.

The end result is that having a legally-mandated "victim class" is of no interest except to tyrants.

Anonymous said...

Tell you what Tom, let's just wait and see how many of those "good guy" cops keep their oath and don't try to screw over everybody else.

I'm willing to wait, how about you?

But you will owe me an apology when the politicians use this to destroy more citizen rights and the "good guy" cops enforce the new restrictions.

Fair enough?

tom said...

I don't owe you anything as I stated that it will be bad for everybody all around (implying/mentioning they'll try to use this to destroy more citizen rights "It's a shame all around for everyone is all I'll say. Both for gun owners and Peace Officers. Both what happened in Oakland and the Us vs Them attitude that has been fostered in most US Police Agencies.") and I'll tell you how many of those cops I trust and will be on the correct side.

The ones I'm friends with and have known long term. Anybody I've known less than a dozen years is an unknown entity and some I've known that long still are. I'm quite choosy in friendships. Especially people I go hunting and shooting with and let in my home or even allow to be aware of my interests in firearms and hunting. It's a survival mechanism outside of publishing a at times Threeper blog with my name on it.

The resurrection of the REPUBLIC will not be peaceful. Many people will do about what you expect, and many you think you trust now will turncoat. Some of the people you think will be turncoats won't be. It's going to be one HELL OF A MESS. That is the nature of human societies.

FWIW: My sister is married to a LEO here in Texas who has intentionally broken bread with Sarah Brady more than once. I think I'm pretty situationally aware as to what some will and won't do. Shame to lose my sister. I haven't spoken to her but at a funeral once since she married that asshole.

I never apologize to anyone because I never create cause to.

Let us both hope that the 65 demotwats of next week don't write a retraction letter of the one they wrote last week, OK?

Cordially,
Tom

NO Fort Sumters but I'm not blind either.

tom said...

As an addendum, Straightarrow, I thought about being one of Mike's suggested "moles" when that evil wedding occurred a number of years ago before I even had read a word Mike had written, but they know me too well and it never would have worked.

At the funeral mentioned above I suggested he was a US Traitor and should be blindfolded and put up against a wall, last cigarette and drink optional.

Might live an hour's drive away but no longer family or any influence in my life and they feel the same of me.

Being a free thinker is hardly free, but I try to do my best to manage.

Anybody's guess as to who of us will survive the first few "culls" but I'd trust your sort with a rifle beside me, most likely. Decisions made on a case by case basis.

Anonymous said...

Well Tom, you can trust my heart and my courage, but you would be foolish to trust my physical ability. Even I don't trust it anymore. However, my attitude and my response haven't changed. Absent my former physical abilities I assume a short life span is in the offing for me should the flag go up and I run to the guidon, which I will do.

Should the flag not go up, I will still respond in resistance to trespasses against my person or family. I am not the man I used to be, but my failings are not internal, they are physical and external visited upon me by age and infirmity. I still prefer to live as a man. Barring that possibility I would prefer to die as one as well.

I think my greatest contribution would be to occupy attention long enough to give other more survivable people a chance to mobilize, organize, and strike back.

If I misread your meaning previously, I apologize. However, I do maintain that an officer who enforces laws that are not constitutional or moral is not a "good guy". His damn pension be damned. I know that makes my apology half-assed, but I have just seen too many cops condone, either explicitly or implicitly, illegal and abusive acts by their brothers in blue. Those are not "good guys".

As for your family stress, I truly sympathize. I seem to be the only one in my family who doesn't toe the line of authoritarianism. I love most of my family, but I don't talk to them. You sir, do have my sympathies as regards that unfortunate circumstance.

tom said...

The quoted PEACE officer above is looking into maybe being a fishing guide or even working at a shop as a clerk or some other sort of thing he would enjoy doing without orders coming from Washington if things change much. He already has feelers out to DEROS, as it were. He's been thinking ahead.

Best Regards,
Tom

Anonymous said...

Out of simple curiosity:

Does anyone know what oath police officers take when they graduate from their academy?

Is it to the city, to the State Constitution, to the U.S. Constitution?

David Codrea said...

My assumption is the oaths taken vary depending on locale--but I'm not aware of any state oaths that do not include the US Constitution. I have not read each one, but KABA posted a list some years back:

http://keepandbeararms.com/information/XcInfoBase.asp?CatID=266

I don't know if there is a different oath in these states for LEOs. Perhaps someone with the time can do some searching around...

Anonymous said...

First off I will make myself clear. No one has a right to take another person's life unless its warranted in self defense or they have had a fair day in court.
This criminal justice system that we have is a scam on the taxpayers to float parasites. Without looking for the spot on numbers I believe its something like 5 percent of the criminals commit 93 percent of the violent crimes. You guy have heard me say many times I'm unhappy with the scam of the revolving doors of the criminal justice system.
Being said, as far as Tom talking about the good cops my question to him is: Tom, how many times have your good friends turned in some rotten apples?

tom said...

AvgJoe:

The best of the bunch had a hellish 5 years of lawsuits for breaking the heart of a crackhead rapist kidnapper (with a .40S&W).

He and his partner got the kidnapped ex-gf away from the crackhead and the armed crackhead tried to kill my friend and his partner.

He turned that one in to the MORGUE rather than booking him for an ungrateful political community and some in the department that left him hanging out to dry for all practical purposes when the lawsuits rolled in from the non-innocent "victim's" family and anti-police organizations.

Saving that woman from further rape and possible murder completely changed his career, cost him years of his life, and ended up costing him a marriage. Some people don't talk to him at church anymore. Some people recognize his photo from all the lawsuits and hearings that followed because he did his job properly. He'd still do it again just the same.

He's also jailed quite a few violent criminals. As I said he has stated more than once, if he wanted to rack up a large arrest record for fucking with people over things that are basically irrelevant, he could do that all day long but that wasn't what he signed up to do.

TO PROTECT AND SERVE.

That is what he hired on to do and has done for decades.

Being as some in his department somewhat abandoned him to the wolves, he's not gone out of his way to overlook fuckups and bad apples in his department as he's an officer of rank and tenure.

He's not the Captain of his area command but he's pretty close to there in spite of everything. Usually he talks to the assholes first and suggests they start looking for a job in some other agency, as he doesn't like their sort around him. If not he gets rid of them by either firing, reporting them to people that do care about bad apples, or re-assignments. How it shakes out depends on the case.


Does that answer your question?

Anonymous said...

The late news tonight says Mixon was "frustrated at not being able to get a job."
That's a VERY long line today. What keeps the other 750,000 desperate jobless from killing people? Maybe, just maybe, they care about someone and something other than themselves? The Mixons of the world think they're so special. It ties in with the theory that stupid people are too stupid to be aware that they are stupid.

tom said...

DEFENDER,

He was about to be done in for rape and murder charges too:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/23/MNBQ16LGNH.DTL&tsp=1