Saturday, October 02, 2010

Are 80% of 'seized' Mexican crime guns coming from the U.S.?

No data, no disclosure of methodologies, no...uh...proof? Calderón said it, we believe it, that settles it?

Who did the peer review, Eric Holder? [More]
Today's Gun Rights Examiner looks at what the antis are passing off as the final word.

They just don't realize who has the final say, do they?

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9 comments:

Kurt '45superman' Hofmann said...

As you point out:

The Mexican government said...? And the "scholarly" footnoted source reference is an unsubstantiated, politically-motivated claim by President Felipe Calderón as reported by The Washington Post and The Washington Times?

The report's mendacity is actually worse than that--it's probably easiest just to point to what I wrote about it here

Defender said...

Ah, the wonderful media again, persisting in passing on lies that have been debunked. Supporters of eliminating weapons as a way to "prevent conflict." They don't understand that the conflict comes first, and conflict is better than abject submission to tyranny.
A perfect storm of local, state, federal and international hatred for our freedom. Well, unlike an actual storm, taking shelter is far from the only option we have.

Kurt '45superman' Hofmann said...

By the way, Colby Goodman, one of the report's authors, with whom I had the little exchange linked to above, is not new to "gun control" issues, and clearly isn't writing from a position of scholarly detachment.

Colby Goodman is a member of the Military, Security, and Police Working Group at Amnesty International USA. Previously, he was the Program Manager of the Child Soldiers and Arms Transfers Program. As the Program Manager, he led AIUSA’s research and advocacy on issues related to child soldiers, arms control, and related human rights issues.

Before joining AIUSA, Mr. Goodman was a Research Assistant with the Arms Division at Human Rights Watch where he researched cases of arms brokers from Eastern Europe and cases of irresponsible and illegal arms transfers by sea vessels for a ground-breaking report on the scope of this problem. Prior to that, he was a Legislative Aide with U.S. Senator Barbara A. Mikulski, working on defense and foreign policy issues.

At Amnesty, Mr. Goodman has been a lead advocate in several United Nations conferences on small arms issues and has been quoted in various national and international media such as the New York Times, National Public Radio, and Al-Jazeera on the global arms trade or child soldiers. He holds a Master’s degree in International Policy Studies with a focus on international development and security from the Monterey Institute of International Studies in Monterey, California.

David Codrea said...

You'd think professional liars would be better at it.

Anonymous said...

There are "lies, damn Lies, and statistics", but mixing an attorney like Eric Holder with statistics... well...

Dann in Ohio

TJP said...

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And 100% of Mexicans come from Mexico! No matter which way you stack it--thefts, government transfers, war spoils or "straw" buyers--the U.S. is the most productive country in the world, and has the largest number of arms makers. There's a high statistical likelihood that any random firearm encountered will be made here, especially on the same contiguous land mass. Traces reveal no useful data about black market transfers.

So if we follow this thought through: would the situation be any better if 80% of the guns came from Izhmash? No? Guess it's not relevant, then. Let's not ask questions, though; instead we will enjoy the depth of thought characteristic of a disarmer:

The reason why Mexican drug cartel enforcers are shooting people with guns is because drug cartel enforcers shoot people with guns.

I'm sure there's no other reason for the behavior at all. Goodness, no. A Mexican drug cartel enforcer leaves the womb with the weapon in his hand, and should he lose it, he will never again seek to find another.


wv = "fedlyte"; tastes great, less tyranny!

Anonymous said...

Blog del Narco (Spanish), as well as Borderlandbeat.com (English), provide a thorough reporting on the events in Mexico.

Apropos of this particular issue, Blog del Narco had a video of a captured cartel foot-soldier being interrogated by a rival cartel. This hostage/victim disclosed close ties between his bosses and the local military commander -- to include pay-offs, sale of military grade weapons and explosives, and sharing of intelligence.

A separate blog entry details a "raid" on a military armory (in a separate region from that discussed above) -- where a group of armed men broke in, tied up the security personnel, and made off with military-grade ordnance. The personnel securing the armory that night are now being investigated for corruption -- they may have been paid by the cartel to stand down when the raid team arrived.

And that's just two stories detailing how Mexican cartels secure military-grade firearms, explosives, etc. from internal sources.

TJP said...

Thanks for that, Anon. It goes to show that when disarmers call for disarmament, they mean disarmament of their political opponents. That's why armed "raids" on food co-ops selling raw milk is not worthy of comment, but it's front page news when a gun store owner in Virginia sells a gun to someone who resells it on the black market to a NYC crook.

So, most self-titled disarmers still want their side armed to the teeth. When nobody's looking, political differences may be settled with cash, and that happens often enough to create a black commodities market with a flow of goods stable enough to rival a government-organized one--and without price spikes caused by index speculators.

Anonymous said...

Calderon may be correct, in a lying kind of way. I've started to notice how the ruling class and media like to throw it in our face in a "lawyer" kind of way. Just like they're going to "reform" health care, HK USA might make the machine guns and grenade launchers, sell them to the mexican military, which in turn sells them to the cartels. This way they're always given an "out".