Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Rejecting the Obvious

But many African-American lawmakers don’t see the “public gatherings” law as a civil rights issue. In fact, at the Capitol, black lawmakers have been some of the leading backers of gun-control legislation over the years.
I don't know what you can do about so-called "leaders" who are offended by reminders that freedom is bought at great personal sacrifice by those willing to die--or kill if left no choice--for it.

Except ignore them if you're serious.

Especially when anyone with eyes and a willingness to look can see that Liberty is not, and never has been, a privilege bequeathed by government.

[Via Jeffersonian]

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

All gun control 'laws' are racist.

Hence, anyone who pushes for such laws might as well put on their pointy white hood while debating the need for more 'gun control' laws.

After all, we can not allow those types of people to defend themselves with the most effective tool for the job.

Anonymous said...

Let's turn their own reasoning against them: The country is vastly different now. Surely they can't believe anyone could massacre helpless blacks now, so there's no need to fear citizens with weapons in public.
They would limit us to flintlock muskets on similar grounds; "The Founders couldn't have foreseen the invetion of semi-automatic weapons"...
They can't have it BOTH ways.

Anonymous said...

This Friday is the third anniversary of Hurricane Katrina's arrival on the gulf Coast. Days later, the edict went out: We will take all the guns. No one will be allowed to be armed.
I hope we've all learned a few things.
1. Lots of LEOs will follow illegal orders.
2. Try to explain that you know your rights, and they'll gang-tackle you, minimum.
3. The NRA, "the biggest gun rights organization," will issue a strongly-worded press release condemning this -- after a real rights organization does first.
4. Other cities will do the same thing with any kind of justification at all.
5. New Orleans officials who ordered the confiscations are better off than they were in 2005. Re-elected, promoted.

We can hope our opposition has learned ONE thing.
Not everywhere is New Orleans.

GunGeek said...

I wish I could remember where I read it... there was a really good blog posting about a discussion with a prominent black leader about gun control. Seems it was in PA, probably Philly, so that may help me find it.

Anyway, the gist of the discussion was that many blacks, especially those in urban areas, see gun control as a means of preventing a victim from killing the perp. Since little -fill-in-the-blank- really is a good kid that just got in with a bad bunch it would be terrible if he got killed when they were mugging or carjacking someone.

They have relatives, friends, or neighbors that are in prison. Other wonderful relatives, friends, or neighbors are going to get talked into doing something illegal by some hoodlum friends of theirs and they would just as soon they didn't get shot by their victim.

Therefore, they want the law-abiding people to be unarmed.

Unfortunately, it's a lot like the big days of unionization when the Republican Party was in favor of gun control because they didn't want the little people that big businesses were abusing to pop them or one of their country club friends.

Did I use enough stereotypes? I'm sure you see the logic, though.

Anonymous said...

I have an idea, lets led by example. The police that's all police fed, sate and local have to use flint lock firearms. If they find that these are too underpowered to fight against criminals, than whatever they feel they need we citizens should be able to have as well. Because we run of the mill citizens have to deal with the very same criminals far more often than law enforcement does. So we would need what cops have at the very least. If cops need full autos than we would need the same because criminals are everyones problem.
H/T to Defender for giving me the thought on this one.

Anonymous said...

The only danger with stereotypes is that they paint everyone in the group with the same road brush. But that doesn't necessarily mean they're not true, at least in part.

Anonymous said...

These "leaders" are all about still trading in slavery. Only now, they don't have to feed and house their slaves out of their own pockets.

These "leaders" know that if their constituents, especially their black urban constituents get the idea in their heads that they can exercise responsibility for the own protection, they just might expand that to taking on more liberating tasks, once they discover how much they like being in charge of their own lives. Hence they might leave the plantation and these "leaders" might find themselves in need of emmployment.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Joe.
That's the plain meaning of U.S. Code 18.6-whatever, defining the organized and unorganized militias, if our leaders cared about the truth. David Olofson wouldn't need four lawyers to file 125 pages of appeal, because he's a legal resident of the United States and therefore a member of the real militia, the whole of the people, and the Founders said what the military has, we can have. No argument, no qualifications, no restrictions.

Mayor L. Douglas Wilder, Socialist-Va., is an African-American, the grandson of slaves, who believes only the police and military need guns (one gun a month became law while he was governor). Also, only the mayor needs to decide city policy...
Anyway, an editorial writer for the local paper says there should be a monument to Wilder in Capitol Square. Because he was the first elected black governor since Reconstruction.
What good is a historic milestone if it measures the way to tyranny?
Tunnel vision seems to be epidemic.
I agree about the "perpetrator protection" aspect of gun control. Even though a black man was governor, and is mayor, and one may be president, black youth "never had a chance, so they turn to crime to keep from starving." 225 years of slavery, 225 more years of blaming slavery?
An apparent killer was acquitted here of the murder, but convicted of using a gun in the crime. ?!? The dying victim told the police someone nicknamed "Black" shot him. There are 54 other known offenders who use that handle.
Why not? That's the level of imagination you find here. Our soccer team is called "the Kickers," our coliseum is called "the Coliseum," our baseball stadium is called "the Diamond." if a new team replaces the Braves, it'll probably be "the Batters."

Anonymous said...

It is all about preventing the constituency from gaining confidence in themselves as a viable force in their own lives.

Once that confidence is gained the people will realized they need no master. These "leaders" would rather have syphillis than a confident independence minded constituency.

Anonymous said...

Well said, Mr. Arrow.

The most popular city council people here are the ones who give their constituents the most stuff, not the ones who respect their rights.
Bread and circuses as the empire falls.
I'm heartened by reports from Florida about some residents who've given up on their governments rescuing their neighborhoods from crime. They're getting armed and active. They can at least say "Not here, you don't."
That's all we want.
If the ineffectual -- or criminal-ENABLING-- government objects, tell them so too. "Not here, you don't."

Anonymous said...

To be fair, I should say that the boys in my all-white neighborhood got in trouble too. Some went to juvenile detention. Shoplifting, underage drinking, pot, stealing lumber from construction sites to build treehouses. This was before offing people had status.
Their fathers were blue-collar alcoholics who didn't have much good to say to them. Some were physically abused. That's the cycle, and the key. Only men who are secure enough as men to show love can change it.