Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Support Your Local Rape Gang

...the deputies told the young boy he'd make a good "girlfriend" for some of the other inmates.
William N. Grigg will tell you more--if you can stomach it.

I first heard about this case yesterday over at Billy Beck's, who links to further comments from Wendy McElroy.

What is it about "the system" that makes these sadists confident enough in their action to even contemplate something this horrible, and do it so brazenly? What is it about "the system" that relies on --and promotes--moral defectives?

And remember--any one of us could be placed at the mercy of such monsters--all you need do is get caught defying an unconstitutional gun law--in which case, expect no shortage of "enforce exisiting gun law" types to assure each other how such an extremist got what was coming for not working to elect leaders to change the law first, and how that makes us all look bad.

[Via Zachary G]

14 comments:

Sean said...

I remember one commentator here not long ago, teasing all and sundry about "why aren't you saddling up" or some such Eloi crap. Now. III

Anonymous said...

my brother no longer speaks to me because he took umbrage when I said there are no good cops. He is a cop.

I know him well enough to know he would not do such as presented here, but I also know he knows bad cops and jailers. He has never arrested any of them, nor testified against any of them. Therefore he cannot be a "good" cop. He hasn't spoken to me since.

Too bad. But he still can't explain how the code of silence makes him any different from any other criminal gang member.

When people accuse me of being a cop-hater, I tell them NO! But I do hate criminals, even those in blue uniforms.

Anonymous said...

I don't think I'll ever let them arrest me.
We all know what goes on in prison, even in the 24-hour court lockup. THAT'S NOT A LEGAL PUNISHMENT. It's also not a joke.
The penalty for allowing the strong to dominate the weak IN CUSTODY should be extreme. I usually suggest payment-in-kind. Mercy is for the merciful.
If it happened to my child or a friend, the consequences would be extremely extreme.
This isn't the Middle Ages.

Anonymous said...

Life in prison would be the least of their worries were it my child. In fact,the death penalty wouldn't be a big worry either.

Anonymous said...

straightarrow: "I know him well enough to know he would not do such as presented here,..."

Beware.

Go find a book entitled "Pigs and Other Animals: A True and Thought-Provoking Story of Violence, Brutality and Perversion in Our Jails", by Roger Martin. (Arcadia, CA: Myco Publishing House, 1980)

Martin was an airline pilot laid-off (American Airlines, IIRC) laid-off in the 70's. He took a job at the Orange County (California) Jail. His transformation into one of the animals that he wrote about is horrifying. He thought so, too. That's why he wrote the book about the experience. He was a decent man when he went in there.

My view: no person whose ethics are likely strong enough to survive an environment like that would ever take that job.

Anonymous said...

The classic college psychology experiment to test the effect of pain on learning? Zap the student with a few volts and see how much of a paragraph he can remember, gradually increasing the "negative stimulus"?
The student is faking being shocked. The REAL test is of the volunteers "helping" the student and the test designer. Those helpful folks will, with the slightest encouragement or silent non-disapproval, hit the button again and again until it suppposedly delivers near-fatal jolts to the UNCONSCIOUS "student." Because they can. They don't believe it either, until they see the videotape.
When there are no consequences, many people ARE animals. No government authority should ever be alowed to police itself. They won't. If it violated policy, they obviously wouldn't be doing it, therefore if they're doing it it doesn't violate policy. ANYTHING can be excused that way, and is.

Anonymous said...

Billy Beck, no, I am certain he would not do that. I am almost as certain, unfortunately that he wouldn't "see" anything to which he would testify, nor would he arrest these animals.

I hope I am wrong, but since he doesn't speak to me anymore when I pointed out that a "good" cop would do those things I have no choice but to consider him my enemy and an enemy to liberty. Hell of thing to think of a man who retired from the Navy. And a very sad thing to think of one's brother whom he loves.

But no. He would not do that. His would be a sin of complicity in the cover up, if only by his silence.

Shit! I may cry.

Kent McManigal said...

This is just part of the "punishment culture" that rots our country from the inside out. Too many people would rather see others be punished (whether guilty or not) than to step up and be MEN and stop the attacks-in-progress. It makes me sick to hear this kind of thing since I KNOW that most people who are imprisoned are simply political prisoners, "guilty" of violating a counterfeit "law", not aggressors.

Anonymous said...

straightarrow:

I've the same problem with the fellow my sister married. My theory that all law enforcement eventually comes down to them having the ability to order a murder prevents me from seeing eye to eye with him or wishing to break bread.

He's probably a nice guy, I just have a philosophical stalemate with wanting to be his friend. So I'm not.

Anonymous said...

I have always believed that we are animals. We are animals, yet we are more than animals as well, because God created us in His image. But when I see the news, and read the blogs, I have to conclude that some of us are nothing more than animals, and dangerous ones at that.

Damn, SA. That's a bitch of a position your brother put you in.

Kent McManigal said...

Friends don't let friends become enforcers.

Just kidding. But I do try to talk people out of it when I discover they are wanting a career in crime. I tell them they are joining the wrong side. They always seem to think they are doing the "right thing" and "helping". Dead wrong, but it is hard to counter years of statist brainwashing.

Anonymous said...

If laws were outlawed, only outlaws would enforce laws.

:-)

Anonymous said...

I knew a jailer in Arizona.

He lost his job because he insisted on treating the inmates like human beings.

Of course he eventually lost his job...

Anonymous said...

No that has been my voluntarily selected position. He put himself in a bad spot though.

I have never been one to push myself on anyone, not even people I love. I almost called him on his birthday this year. he is enough younger than I, that I was almost old enough to be his father.Well, teenage father.

I took him everywhere with me when he was little. So what he does can't change the way I feel. Just changes what I do about it.