Metro Violent Crimes Task Force...A 10-agency task force...The FBI, along with nine other agencies...A Blackhawk helicopter hovered overhead as officers in bulletproof vests and Kevlar helmets stormed the home...[More]All for one guy? Yeah, but one who "was allegedly selling illegal guns from his home."
Per Avg Joe, who says:
Little history: This is a training raid of force, black hawk the whole nine yards. A total of 10 LE agencies counting the FBI who seemingly was in charge of the raid. This was way, way, way over kill but it gets these groups working together because they know this sh** is going to be going n the coming future.Here's the latest...
History: I believe I sent you a line where something like crazy like 750 cops, medical folks and who knows used the Boise Town Mall after hours as a training area. They used full auto toy guns. This was said to be a training in case some idiot/s starting shooting up the place. First off if people are pinned down but whack jobs, the last thing the cops need to be shooting are full autos. What my intel tells me is that was training to run as many as 25 raids at the same time from the same command post. I'm telling you David, if you take what just happened in New Orleans within the last week and this raid. You have these people getting ready to do some very heavy sh**. They are putting the pieces in place one by one and too many people are sleeping as it happens.
[I]nvestigators did not find any firearms inside..."Only Ones."
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After that show of force over one loser. They than had another show to do and that was at the mall. Clearing out the mall of citizens during store hours. Busy day training.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/663261.html
Nothing personal, I'm sure. It's just the law, mein Herr.
We, however, take it very personally.
Looks clear which way our latter-day Nazis are going to jump, and how many will jump with them.
What Defender said.
By their deeds you already know them.
The thin blue line is now the thin brown (shirt) line.
"Due to the nature of it, the fact that this involves illegal firearms and drugs, we want to make sure in an abundance of caution that we go into the house correctly and that's why we used a tactical team," said Morton.
How did they know, prior to the raid, that they were "illegal firearms"?
So, the war on drugs meets the war on guns. Howdy do.
Anyone who thinks the cops will NOT just follow orders is truly fooling themselves.
And so much for "pro-gun" Idaho.
well, i'm sure it was an entertaining show.
of course, jackboots still go home at night.
without all that gear.
Don't overlook the "drugs" side of the equation. Personally, I'd support this raid solely on the drugs charges. If the weapons sales were the only issue, then I'd have a different view, but the trafficking and casual use of illegal narcotics is the #1 driving force behind the daily inner city violence which leads people to mistakenly support the Brady Campaign and their allies.
If the Second Amendment is going to survive, the drug culture in America will have to be abandoned.
Greyhawk, last time you maintained that I asked you to show me where in the Constitution the feds have that authority.
At least when they did alcohol prohibition, they went through the motions.
And thing is, guns and freedom are being attacked precisely BECAUSE of the effects of your war on drugs.
The war on some drugs begat this violence the same way that prohibition (regardless of the Constitutional context) begat Chicago, Detroit, Cincinnati and New York crime syndicates.
These same syndicates now control more "legal" theaters of operations... like unions which are, of course, well known for acting legally and with legitimate interest in the people.
Until the war on some drugs is ended there will be no end to the violence it propagates. And since the anti-drug lobby (drugs kill people) only recognizes the same side of the argument that the anti-gun lobby does (guns kill people) they will never recognize that everyone has an individual responsibility when they pick up a firearm, a joint or a needle. It is a misapplication of odious and diabolical character to inanimate objects.
Given their logic, we should ban all cars because that will save lives from drunk drivers. BAN CARS NOW!
And don't forget the billions of dollars of FEDERAL funding pumped into each state that kowtows to their indoctrination and mandates. The war on some drugs is a cash-cow for the separate states and the only way to be free of that communist/socialist yoke is to cast out and shout down the oppressive, illegal, unconstitutional fed.gov.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Deo Vindice
Drugs? Seems the cops only found a little personal amount and no guns.
Keep in mind that the cops and DA's offices are artist at feeding the media one sided information who will parrot anything told to them by the cops and DA's office. Now that the truth, is starting to come out a little container of some small amount of dope doesn't warrant this show.
Again: This whole show was done to scare the citizen body with the power that the LE's have. The government wants people to be afraid of government so they can control the people through fear.
I demand through my First Amendment rights to speak out for, transparency in government. Those people work for us and to try and intimidate and scare the citizen body to make them sheep is not something I'm going to stand for by not pointing it out.
This whole raid was a scam and so was the raid on the Boise town Mall during store hours later the same day is this raid. It was a show of force by unlawful conduct.
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Morton said the arrest warrants served at the home were to find guns, but investigators did not find any firearms inside. They did find a small amount of methamphetamine, which led to the drug possession charge being filed against Burke. There was one other person in the home during the raid but they were not charged
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What do you want to bet it was planted?
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While they didn’t find any firearms in the home, task force officers acquired enough evidence during the investigation to file federal gun charges against Burke, Morton said.
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No guns? Federal gun charges? Gee, did he have DRAWINGS of guns or something terrible like that?
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The grand theft charge was filed because officers found two parking meters recently stolen from Downtown Boise in the home, according to Boise Police reports.
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Now, this really has me scratching my head. I can see them plant the drugs, but parking meters? Weird.
But they had to come up with something to justify all this waste of manpower and money, didn't they? Must be some hardass in the props room -- er, I mean the property (evidence) room who wouldn't let them have any nice toys to plant.
And yes, so much for gun friendly Idaho.
A thug here pled guilty to the accidental death of a 14-year-old in the crossfire of a drug-robbery related shootout. To the parents he said : "I feel y'all's pain because I lost my brother to some stuff like this." And then gets involved, or stays, anyway. The drugs aren't going away. The profit is too high; Prohibition does that.
The Other Side always says "Will this new gun law reduce crime? Let's try it and find out." They never say "Will rescinding some of these controls on PEOPLE reduce crime? Let's try it and find out."
We know the thousand-yard war and the three-block war. Time for the arm's-length war, the "Michael Collins" war?
All kinds of uniforms can be had for a couple of dollars at thrift stores. Act like you belong there, and you belong there.
Greyhawk - I don't know if you're interested in considering views that don't correspond with your own - but I would like to offer mine to you. Likewise - if you don't agree with what I suggest - I'd like to know where I'm erring in my own view.
David's point could be the beginning and end of the matter - no authority - no law - no War on (some) Drugs. Obviously it hasn't played out that way - and there's now around 70+ years worth of evidence to demonstrate the actual effects of the prohibitions.
A consequence of the prohibitions against some drugs is that the very prohibition has created a lucrative niche for those who are willing to provide these drugs - and an equally lucrative niche for those that try to enforce the prohibitions. I'd suggest that in the absence of prohibitions that the profits in the marketing of these drugs would be so negligible that few criminals would bother to make that a part of their repertoire. As it stands now - the prohibitions have made it so lucrative that 'cartels' - entire organisations - can reap immense profits from their involvement in the trade. I believe that these profits are what fuel the great majority of violence that you cite in your statement above.
Historical evidence suggests that early colonial farmers grew marijuana. Ostensibly the effort was for the fibers of the male plant - hemp. But - you have to have both sexes of the plant to continue to propagate them - so the female plants (which are more suited to deliver a narcotic effect) were surely a part of their 'grow op'. One doesn't hear much about colonial farmers (George Washington among them) popping caps into one another on the street corners.
Considering the historical record - violence doesn't raise its head until tariffs, taxes, and prohibitions enter into the picture. I offer as evidence - the Boston Tea Party - the 'Whiskey Rebellion' - and the British involvement in the opium trade - as a few examples. Cut to contemporary times in Afghanistan, Columbia, and Mexico as examples as to how well this has played out.
In your closing statement you say that "the drug culture in America will have to be abandoned". Abandoned is one thing - but only a couple sentences earlier you state that you'd support the raid on the basis of the recipient being in possession of some prohibited substance. So - though not there in person - you'd nonetheless support the violence inherent in the armed attack on that person and their home. That's a far cry from abandoning drug culture as a personal choice - and it puts the idea into play that you might 'mistakenly' be supporting the flawed logic of prohibition - and subsequently the various enterprises that profit immensely from it.
Btw - how interesting - the word verification for my comment: medled
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