Very early on, a rational discussion of this issue became all but impossible.Yeah, people tend to react that way when they're attacked out of the blue for no reason other than you don't like them.
If you want a rational discussion, start one.
If you pick a fight and then get your sorry butt kicked, whining about being the injured party only trying to do a public good not only rings hollow, it sounds pathetic, self-serving and untrue.
[Via Say Uncle]
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Though many of our critics believe that the database handed burglars a shopping list of households with guns and abusers a list of their victims, no one can point to a single incident where similar publications led to a crime.
Please. Spare me. Admit you screwed up, say you're sorry, and then shut up.
In fact, just shut up.
Wait a minute, here. Didn't that in fact occur with the Cleveland Plain Devious's list?
I guess we should ask them to publish a list of all home addresses of BATFEces agents, FBI perpetrators, and cops then. That would still only be publishing public information. After all, if those people have nothing to hide, how could they object. As I recall, some of them have used their positions to commit crime, so we had better know just where these potential criminals live, in the name of public safety. The paper can pull the list after a day or so, just like they did with the gun owners list. After all, I doubt there have been any incidents where any murders occurred after such a list was published, so it would be OK. It is important to keep the government accountable.
Wait a minute, here. Didn't that in fact occur with the Cleveland Plain Devious's list?
Not that I know, they did publish lists, but I haven't heard anything around town on anything past that. I've said that the first time it's used as a tool for criminals to find a gun the PD needs to be drug into court and tried with every applicable charge, any editor, reporter, janitor, whoever had some role to play in letting that list get to press.
I guess I heard that it happened in Ohio, but wasn't confirmed.
They need to be Zumbo'd. Hit them so hard where it hurts, that they come crawling back begging forgiveness.
When one refuses to see the 'light'. Then sometimes it's best to shatter their illusion. And let the light come streaming harshly, suddenly and overwhelmingly in. So that there is no possible way that it can be dismissed. Hitting one in the pocket-book tends to have just such a desired effect......
"The public should be able to monitor how well various jurisdictions screen concealed carry applicants."
No permit necessary equals no screening necessary equals no monitoring necessary. They figured it out in Vermont a long time ago. Virginia has some catching up to do.
" And we will continue to advocate passionately for the free flow of information that is the lifeblood of an open society."
Is that why they allow no place for public comment in response? Just like "Pravda" - one way communistication from the top down.
I agree with Kent, whoever takes home government property, should be kept on public record. I mean that's pretty much what they argued, since safety is of no concern.
I like to think that I had some small part in their decision. I left a very firm but non threatening voice mail to the effect that the blood was on their hands the first time a child was killed when someone broke in to the home to steal guns.
Of course you did way more than me by being on top of this to begin with and for that I applaud you.
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