They say the attackers will kill everyone they see – students, teachers and parents alike – as they move in to seize the school. They will plant bombs throughout buildings, while raping and murdering and throwing out bodies as they did in Beslan.
The pair of trainers say the most effective deterrent to such attacks is to ensure there is an armed presence within every school. They recommend armed security as well as encouraging teachers and administrators to carry firearms.
Well, that last part will be difficult, because Wayne says "No."
And I'd hate to have anyone lump me in with tinfoil hatters, because as any long-time WoG visitor will tell you, I take pains to craft my opinions to earn majority approval and not get anybody mad at me, but just imagine if this scenario does happen.
Now imagine the terrorists use "assault weapons."
And if they got them from gun shows!
Hmmm.
And Hmmm.
What do you think the reaction from government, the antis and the media would be? And does the word "convenient" dare to spring up?
Nah, forget it. It's just me being delusional out loud. I think my foil is starting to unwrap.
[Via Sam]
16 comments:
Heck, they don't even have to carry it out, the stage is being set to let it happen. We've set all the laws in place to disarm anyone who could resist a hostage takeover, and we communicate our great national fear of just such a hostage situation. It's being offered up on a platter.
And you're right, when the eventual does happen, our government will take more rights from us.
Well besides working to let Teachers and administrators to carry guns perhaps we should start addressing the DEADLY threat of Isalm (not just "radical" Islam) in the US. See my proposal ban this death cult which is married to crime syndicate at - http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html
Read the whole thing there but here is the guts -
Article I
The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.
The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.
Article II
As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.
Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.
The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.
The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.
Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.
Article IV
Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.
Scott W
Phx, AZ
robscottwilk@yahoo.com
Hey Scott, replace "Islam" with "Christianity" in your above letter and see how "right" it seems.
Scott, I'm more afraid of the government you would establish under this proposal than I am of the entire Islamic world.
My sweet, disarming school teacher wife can't carry a concealed weapon, even though she has a permit.
She has the balls to shoot back.
If she was able to carry, she could at least defend her classroom. And no terrorist would even suspect that she would be the type to take him out without reservation.
How many more teachers are there out there with the same mindset?
Yet they are all considered a danger to someone if they pack a weapon.
Everyone at my children's school is armed ... all the way from the principal to the teacher, to the pupils ... at all times. That is only possible in a non government school.
I get a lot of flack for my proposed Constitutional amendment considering that it will NEVER happen.
Since I truncated my proposal here is the preamble -
Thursday, February 08, 2007
A Proposed Constitutional Amendment
Background and justification to Amendment 28
Whereas Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;
Whereas the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice one’s religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion of religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a “religious test” for participation in the body politic;
Whereas Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by its religious law, Sharia, that supersedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to be superior to Islamic law;
Whereas Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam will dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;
Whereas Saudi Arabia, the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even “moderate” Muslims states such as Turkey and Malaysia actively suppress other religions;
Whereas Islam includes as its basic tenet the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that they implement violent jihad (holy war) against those un-willing to convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions;
Whereas on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim hijackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at the American people around the world;
Whereas representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the government of Iran including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America should cease to exist;
Whereas there is no organized Islamic opposition to violent proponents of Islam;
Therefore: Islam is not a religion, but a political ideology more akin to Fascism and totally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.
Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:
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If you can replace "Islam" with "Christianity" in the preamble and argue with a straight face that Christianity threatens us like Islam try it. I don't think you can.
David, a Constitutional amendment passed by 3/4 of the states identifying Islam as a death cult is a world I could quite easily live in. I fear our children are going to have an increasingly difficult time living in a country where your next door neighbor may belong to a relgious cult that preaches killing infidels.
thanks for letting the post stay up.
Everyone is just so paranoid. Don't you know that the "GUN FREE ZONE" declared and mandated in the student and employee handbooks of every public school will stop those meanie terrorists in their tracks and have them quivering with fear? Just like it did with the lunatic at Virginia Tech.
The employee handbook at my wife's school here in Texas, states that no one (even with a CHL), including visitors can come on school property with any kind of weapon.This is contradictory to Texas state law that allows carrying on the property, but not in the building and a section that allows CHL carry on government owned property unless otherwise prohibited specifically by state law. What school administrators can't seem to comprehend is that they are assuming responsibility for the safety of any CHL from the time they leave home for work until they return home. A tragedy and a multi-million dollar judgement is probably the only thing that will get the attention of politically correct school administrators. I saw on Fox news today that a teacher in Oregon is sueing for her right to self defense and her right to carry in her school. Half of the female Fox anchors are going into PSH over it.
Scott, they didn't ban communism or nazism, although there were de facto bans, so I don't see it happening, nor do I want to see more prohibitions on people's choice of ideology or religion written into the Constitution. The most viable and legal way to do such would be some president declaring Islam a terrorist organization.
And again, we don't like that either, some statists have tried to declare the Minutemen a terrorist organization.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28151
Fine, let's make nice with the Moslems. After they either murder, enslave, and destroy our culture and civilization, we can all sit around in our shackles and congratulate each other that we were fair and let freedom dominate our actions. I can't think of a better way to deal with them. Remember, we must stay true to our ideals, even if they ruin us. That's just what they want us to do. And so far, that's what is happening.
Sean, there is a world of difference between "making nice" with anyone, and empowering a central government that has proven it cannot be trusted with power the authorization to throw the First Amendment out the window and pro-actively persecute ANY group before an actual crime has been committed.
You seem to think the solution for freedom is to increase repression. And you seem to think you can contain this omnipotent--and most certainly corrupt and power drunk--genie once you let it out of the bottle. If they can single out any group, they can single us all out--including (and especially) easily-dehumanized in the media "gun wackos."
Either that or you want to live so badly you'd not mind doing it as a slave in the police state you will create.
You truly can't think of any way to deal with this other than throwing the wisdom of the Founders out the window?
The wisdom of the Founding Fathers has limits. The Moslems are gaming the system the FF created, right now, in a hundred different ways, and it will prove mortal. I am intimately acquainted with the power drunk local/state/federal triumvirate, and I don't trust them any farther than I can urinate. The only thing I want thrown out the window is the Moslems and the Leftists. Fat chance of anything I would want coming to bear. So, again, let's just sit back and let em' have what they want. Nobody knows what to do. It's a quandry. We must work within the system to defeat the Leftists, who control it, and we must work withing the system to defeat the Moslems, who are going to eat it. In the end, we are simply a loose association of citizens, besieged from within and without, and we can do nothing but watch it all fall down like a rotting building. Create a police state and become a slave to it? I don't think I had that much to dowith creating it, I have tried voting and working against it, but it seems I'm whistling in the dark in a police state anyway, keeping my fool head down, and hoping I don't get nabbed. I don't see any difference between what the Leftists have in store for us, or the Moslems, except prayer rugs and endless asking for papers. But it does seem to me using one of my enemies to liquidate another of my enemies before I deal with the first is a good idea. Rather Machiavellian, but suffient. But then, I'm just a stupid old man watching all this happen from the sidelines. Do nothing? What? Do something? What? Fine, David, I'm wrong again, gimme my sign. I'm stupid,lazy, half-witted and as ignorant as a tree stump. You know, I never get tired of being stupid and wrong. Actually, you are right again as usual. This is a forum, or at least I think it is, for tossing ideas around about what to do. I've got an idea. I'll go over to the other side. At least they've got a plan. That way I can watch my former teamates dither about the morality of their proposed ideas, and wonder if the FF would approve, and if they're being true to their ideals, whilst we annihilate them. At least I'll be on the winning side.
"This is a forum, or at least I think it is, for tossing ideas around about what to do."
Ayup. That means other people get to toss around their ideas, too.
Even me.
Bill me.
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