A Phoenix man who held an armed burglar at gunpoint in his home was shot several times by a responding officer, police said Thursday...And we all know an armed citizen should always be considered "an imminent threat."
"We fire upon people when we believe there is a danger to ourselves or others," Thompson said. "So what exactly the officer was thinking, I would say yeah, that for him to fire he would have believed there was a danger, there was an imminent threat right there."
This is why we can't allow guns on campuses. This is why we cannot allow concealed carry. This is why we cannot allow open carry. Because how is a poor "Only One" to know?
If you think about it, this is why we cannot allow guns in the home, which not only is the scene for most domestic violence, but unlike alcohol-serving establishments where guns can be prohibited, it may contain both!
Dustin's Gun Blog has more.
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See? It works! After all subjects are equally emasculated, the Cops have absolute control!
It must have been the right thing to do cuz it was a cop what dunn it!
Longbow
Because after all the law exists for the protection of the police, doesn't it?
The idea that they are there to protect us the citizens is only a convenient fiction that keeps us quiet and in line.
Did any of you read the article?
This one wasn't really the cop's fault.
The wife ran out and told the cops "He has a gun." without clarifying who "he" was. The police acted believing that the assailant was armed.
Gotta cut the cops a little slack on this one. Could things have been done differently? YUP! Should the cops have questioned her as to who had the gun? YES. But this wasn't as malicious as some of the other things we've seen.
This is why I consider LEOs (Liberty Eradication Operatives) to be an imminent threat whenever I see them anywhere. You just never know when they will "go off".
And apparently the cops need some target practice.
"The homeowner is in the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries"
No, I'm not saying they were right, just that they can't even do the wrong thing competently.
Sometimes the right can be a shrill as the left, and just as wrong. This post and so far all save one comment show that clearly . IMHO both the homeonwner and the cop did things real wrong here . My condolences and considerations go to both the homeowner and the cop that shot a person he was sent to help . What all went wrong here ( at first blush ) is far more than should go into a comment , and possibly more than a single blog post , but ill assign " blame " to nearly every party involved , excepting only the kids .
I agree with the " Only Ones " premise to highlight that wrongheaded mindset by politicians, police, and anti advocates. This officer however does not need to be held to that fire for this call he responded to. I know nothing about him and his history so i cant speak to how strerling a fella he is. This time tho his actions even if wrong are understandable .
Farm Dad,
Horsecrap, and yes I have read the story. I have, in fact, followed it from when it originally broke. Then again I do live in Phoenix.
The cop did NOT assess the situation fully. He ran in, saw a guy with a gun and without a badge and opened fire. There was NO need for it. The LEO held the advantage, he couls, and should have taken a minute to fully assess the situation, including using rational, non-confrontationl language to figure out who was who.
However, the police are currently trained to order around anyone who they believe is a potential threat, and if the possible threat does not IMMEDIATELY comply to increase the force response.
If someone is being HELD at gunpoint, typically the holder of the firearm has not made the decision to shoot. That leaves an opening that the cops should exploit so that EVERYONE gets to go home that night, not just the cops.
Basically, the lesson that this teaches us here in the Valley is that we should just drop a couple of rounds into anyone who breaks into our homes while we are there. They are obviously a threat if they are forcing their way in, and it is safer to just shoot them than to neutralize them without violence and wait for the cops.
Cops are for the most part chickenshit. Sorry, but that's the truth. I have listened to them whine for decades about being outnumbered and outgunned, but I have never seen one do a damn thing when all the advantage wasn't on his side, and most often in their chickenshit they don't bother to determine if anything even should be done, so long as they feel they have overwhelming force on their side the "magic words" will save them.
You know the "magic words". "I feared for my life". Those can be followed by anything else and it doesn't matter, the cop gets a pass. For instance, "I feared for my life, so when the three year old girl raised her icky cupcakes covered hands I though the chocolate crumbs were a gun and I shot her until all my spare magazines ran out. It's about officer safety, I want to go home at the end of my shift."
Then he gets a week's paid vacation while the department prepares a news release exonerating him and stating that the officer was well within departmental guidelines and policies,and that officers must be allowed certain leeway in order to perform their jobs as they "put their lives on the line everyday to protect you and me."
In this case the cop panicked, chickenshits do that. Look how many of their own they have killed because they didn't have on the costume.
Cops in todays world are all about using force on the citizens of this country to force them to submit to greedy parasites that have come into power.
Only one huge problem for cops should the day ever come when the people have had all they can take. Cops are not used to losing which will panic cowards. Look at how many cops deserted on the police force in New Orleans a few years ago. Tails where tucked and fast tracks out of Dodge were put down.
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