Saturday, November 07, 2009

There Will Be Change

So will there ever be a change in this status? I believe so but as I said at the start of this essay, it will not be PEACEFUL. [More]
A sobering and thoughtful analysis.

Regulars here know the "Sarah Brady Paradise" theme plays out a lot. But every so often I see a ray of hope.

My one addendum: I don't equate physical rebellion with ideological revolution.

[Via Western Rifle Shooters Association]

21 comments:

Sean said...

Waiting for the Marxists to make the first move, is exactly what the Marxists want. It worked in England, it will work here. So the last toast to freedom by free men will be, "No Ft.Sumters", and our children and grandchildren will ask each other, what did they mean by that? And perhaps some wizened head will say, "It's a way of saying, we'll delay action long enough to make our progeny life-long slaves". Pehaps the greatest tragedy of a free people is that they failed to extend a hand to save their freedom, while the time existed for them to do so. So, by all means, let's talk some more, debate some more, and call our Congress and vote. It's worked so well before. Like watching ice melt on the sidewalk.

David Codrea said...

Sean, what would you have me do and say?

Frederick H Watkins said...

I kind of agree with Sean. If not now, or soon, when? At what one future point in time do we begin to defend our rights in ernest?

David, I'm certainly not looking to you to do or say anything. We are already in a climate of where political speech is beginning to be dangerous speech. Look at how easily Constitutionalist/Right Wing/Conservative citizens have been portrayed as a dangerous element in our midst by no less than the very elected "alleged servants" who are at this very minute planning the destruction of our freedoms and liberties.

In my thinking I'm not in favor of giving them much quarter, because I don't see them giving me any at all.

anhourofwolves said...

David, this is a very timely, well chosen and illuminating piece of writing from a Brit (who fled to NZ back in January according to his comment)
While reading the comment (or maybe wandering off tangentially on one of the links) I recall a statement characterising the UK as America' Petri dish. I think that ascribes far more power and influence to the UK than is deserved, however, US Marxists learn and adapt from their idealogical brethren wherever they govern. So, that said - in addition to reading and digesting thoroughly the comment quoted in Kevin's post - I also recommend this column, by Melanie Phillips, which the comment links to, in which she examines how the Labor party has used mass immigration as a weapon of mass (cultural) destruction. No hyperbole, it was deliberately thought out and executed.
Time was, when immigrants to Western nations were expected to adapt to and be absorbed by the host culture. The Marxists have rigged the system so that now, the tail wags the dog.
The Brits - those that still remember there was once an England, have painted themselves into a corner. There will be blood , I'm afraid

Kent McManigal said...

I don't equate physical rebellion with ideological revolution either. Both have their time and place. Use the wrong one at the wrong time and place and you lose. The question remains- what time and place are we in now? I think I know.

parabarbarian said...

"My one addendum: I don't equate physical rebellion with ideological revolution."

Very good observation. Historically, the first without the second only results in a change of masters.

Kevin said...

Ambrose Bierce (I think) said that "Violent revolution is only an abrupt change in the form of mismanagement."

Most revolutions have historically been exactly that.

Concerned American said...

All:

If we did not have David and Mike, we would be utterly hosed. I am forever grateful for all they say and do to educate me and the rest of their readership. Given the likely effect of their respective bodies of work, they could leave the field today and still be viewed by history as heroic.

Like Sean, I find the NFS formulation very troubling, especially given my hypothesis that the Bad People have made an assessment of likely resistance and concluded that whatever problems they might face will be manageable.

But David asked the key question:

What else can and should be said, that won't result in the premature removal of the speaker from the checkerboard?

In the bookstore last night, I came across a new book on the minority (tyrant) view on Lincoln, which I plan to read. In my quick scan, I learned (embarrassingly enough) that the attack on FS was actually the expiration of an ultimatum delivered by the CSA to the USA.

My point?

I am not sure that anyone on the freedom side is capable of an actual "Fort Sumter" -- that is, an attack by the forces of one nation-state on the forces of another nation-state.

If the formulation were "no stupid attacks on government facilities housing occupied day-care centers", it would not be as pithy but would capture the views of many.

At the end of the day, as a wise man taught me, the North American social justice playoffs and ice cream social will likely begin on some lonely highway between someone who won't back down and someone else who won't leave well enough alone. Alternatively, a poorly-trained and nervous LEO with an M4 at one of this spring's upcoming protests could inadvertantly provide the spark, as could a moronic LEO supervisor.

The survivors of either little tete a tete will then be motivated to do more for his or her side.

In the meantime, I am using "don't be stupid" as my overarching organizing principle. It has, to my ears at least, a useful ambiguity, as does "any means necessary" and simply "no".

Regards,

Just a l'il ol' community organizer

milkorder said...

There does come a time when there is nothing more to say. It is a sad time. It is a brief pause. It is the space of time between "when is it going to happen" and "God have mercy". We all, soon enough, will get to see if we have what it takes to be true to the high ideals we speak of. Those times when we sit and ponder what it was like to storm the beaches of Normandy or crawl through the grinder at Iwo Jima, will be answered shortly.

Washington refused to be king after the revolution. Will we be that lucky this time around? Will we be as blessed, by our creator, as those who won Liberty the first time?

straightarrow said...

We will not restore the republic peacefully, if we think we can, we are whistling past the graveyard of freedom.

It is not our choice. The choice rests solely in the hands of those who have usurped power and authority to which they have no rightful claim. They will engage in murder before they give it up.

Murder will not, I think, be tolerated. We have already encouraged them more than we should have by our inactions in the past. But even mice fight back at some time.

I would have you,David, and Mike V., both do what you are doing. The more eyes you open the easier it will be for us to restore the republic. Though, as stated above, I do not think it can be done without bloodshed. I wish it were not so, but the choice is out of our hands, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

Wife: What is the punishment for not buying health insurance we can't afford?

Husband: A felony.

Wife: What is the punishment for ignoring every law against victimless crime, and making an honest living in the black market?

Husband: A felony.

Wife: Hey! We can't afford this health insurance!

Brian K Miller said...

The situation in America is not yet hopeless, although it is rapidly headed that way. There is a major congressional vote next year. Hit the country fairs and various fundraisers. Talk to the candidates face to face. Have your facts ready at hand and hit'em with everything you've got. If you like the answers, spend your weekends and off time working to get that candidate elected.

If you disagree with their answers, work just as hard making sure they don't get elected!

Sean said...

David, it is not for me to tell you what to do or say. That,of course, is a matter of your own conscience, and volution. And I follow mine. And after that grotesque exercise in the House of Representatives last night, followed by that bitch and her howling, I know my course. And all the posturing, and discourse, and cautions be damned.

Concerned American said...

Greyhawk:

With respect, where are the candidates from any party making the principled case for freedom, a la

-- You own your own life; no one has the right to interfere in it as long as you do not infringe upon the rights of others

-- You own the results of your productive efforts; no one has the right to seize the fruits of your economic activity

-- You and your spouse are the sole authority over the raising and education of your children; no one has the right to interfere with that process, as long as the children are not being physically injured?

I respectfully submit that they do not exist, and even if they do in limited areas, they are too few and too late to reverse the dash to serfdom now well advanced.

The Bad People want the few remaining sentient Americans to squander their time and energy on the political process.

The collectivists know that such efforts will serve as a diversion from planning/training/executing other traditional forms of securing the fundamental human rights synopsized above.

Anonymous said...

"What else can and should be said, that won't result in the premature removal of the speaker from the checkerboard?"

Free speech enthusiasts still have almost an unlimited ability to talk about encryption. You already study field manuals; now it's time to study software manuals. Just imagine: three months from now, this conversation could be occurring over a web forum that is a hidden service in TOR. Your privacy would be hugely enhanced, and unlike going to tea parties monitored by snipers, taking this gain isn't personally dangerous. Yes, it is unfamiliar and uncomfortable, much like starting PT is when you've been a couch potato. Nobody here is going to make fun of you, and it's not going to get any easier in the future. Think of it as the computer equivalent of an Appleseed. Put on your beginner's mind boonie hat, and learn something.

David Codrea said...

CA said: "The Bad People want the few remaining sentient Americans to squander their time and energy on the political process."

I don't consider myself a bad person and I continue to make efforts in the political arena, as evidenced by my Gun Rights Examiner political questionnaire.

Heck, marching on Washington DC with Threeper flags is a political process.

Do I kid myself about it? Honestly, some times I probably do. But I also think things have the potential to turn apocalyptic. Growing up during the Cold War, that's hardly paranoia--it's been the undeniable case all my life.

So why do I still engage in political and legal discourse--to "squander time and energy"?

No. I do it because I have to answer for my actions to myself. If and when things do go to hell, I need to know I did what was in my power to use the system to achieve peaceable redress.

But I do wrestle with this course, because I also don't want to contribute to false hope and denial while the frog heats in the pot. I'll have to answer for my actions there, too.

As long as I continue doing what I'm doing, I'll continue with this internal back-and-forth.

The other thing I keep in mind is, none of us are prescient. We can assess probabilities 'til the cows come home, and then something happens that throws us a real curve ball.

"Regime changes" can happen in all kinds of ways.

In the interim, I'll keep processing information as best I can and then following what my conscience tells me is the best course. Sorry to be so limited in what I can offer "the cause," but I've never pretended to be anything more than some guy trying his best to do what he thinks is right, and it's all I know how to do.

zach said...

The situation is confusing. I hope I'm wrong, but the population seems too immoral and anti-intellectual to tolerate a free society, should there be a successful realignment, i.e, power is wrested from the social engineers and their corporate allies Then again, sometimes the population seems desperate and more wise. Virginia went for Obama in the 2008 election, then went strongly Republican. Obama's approval rating is plummeting.

No, I'm not saying the Republicans are good or will save us. I'm saying that the electorate seem to be convulsing. Spasm to the left, spasm to the right. Are people looking for a way out? Are they about to see through professor's Quigley's false reality? We'll see. In any case,I do believe this will end in violence. Violence will be a necessary, but not sufficient condition for regaining liberty.

Concerned American said...

David: Never in a million years did I or would I ever consider you, of all people, one of the Bad People.

I too engage in some political folderol, even though I know it is mainly futile.

My point was that both the D and the Rs want Americans to continue to dance at that ball, in large part to keep them for working on other things.

I hope that clarifies things.

At your side,

Peter

David Codrea said...

Oh, I know that--I just thought it necessary to clarify, especially for people who may not be as familiar with the dialog that goes on here and at Sipsey and WRSA.

straightarrow said...

I too, engage in political "folderol", but I used to do it because I thought it would help avoid extreme unpleasantness. I no longer believe that, but I still do it so my conscience is clear when extreme measures must be taken.

When a man gives another every opportunity to back off him and they decline, then the unpleasantness is on their hook.

Concerned American said...

Bingo, SA.

Bingo.