No, no, no. [Read]
Tell me this is all a misquote.
Look, I like you personally from the brief interactions we've had. I like the folks you work with. And I'm grateful you were big enough to put aside past differences and reach out to me on more than one occasion. Really.
But don't do this.
I'm telling you, SAF will be harmed like you won't believe. You won't be able to explain it away if you do.
I'm telling you as a friend. I know you have legislative insights I don't. But I have insights of my own, and I'm seeing a mood and a sentiment you must not be seeing, that you won't see in the halls of government, and that those giving you media coverage certainly know nothing about. Don't discount it.
No.
UPDATE: Workman gives the details.
Wednesday, February 20, 2013
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SAF is making a huge mistake. Only if something very bad was going to pass anyway and you could water it down would you negotiate. That is not the case here.
I have given them money in the past. Looks like I need to rethink that.
I sent my email asking if this is an accurate characterization. Ghu knows, the lamestream muddia get plenty wrong.
I noticed that none of the actual direct quotes explicitly say what the lede claims.
That's why I'm begging them to tell me they've been misquoted by a "progressive" rag. It's the only hope I'm holding on to over this.
"And that's why we can't have nice things."
Every time the grabbers put something up like this, we "negotiate" our rights away. And then they put up something else, and we slip a little farther.
We're far past the point where talking is going to do any good.
Just got this from "Thomas McKiddie" in response to my inquiry to SAF:
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Alan Gottlieb statement on HB 1588
First you should know that I do not support Washington House Bill 1588 as it is currently written.
My support for a state universal background check bill must include a substantial victory for gun owners that includes, but is not limited to repealing, prohibiting and destroying the current state handgun registration system and the data base of several million records of gun owners and their firearms that include the type of handguns and the serial numbers.
This would be a huge victory for our gun rights. We would be the first state to repeal a gun registration system. Think about that and what it means for your privacy as a gun owner and the fact that we all know historically that registration leads to confiscation.
In addition, if you have a carry permit you will be exempt from additional background checks. No checks would be required for transfers between family members. If you are a member of an organization like the Washington Arms Collectors that does a background check for membership, you would be exempt from additional checks to buy a firearm at their gun shows.
There are other inclusions that must be made as well that are good for our rights and freedom that need to be in a final bill to have my support.
My guess is that the gun grabbers will not go along with these provisions and kill the bill. If they do the “blood” so to speak is on their hands, not ours.
There are other smart, tactical, political and morally justified reasons why I have taken this position that I do not want to make public at this time. We do have enemies and I am not going to telegraph our strategy to them by spelling out our battle plans.
I enjoy winning our freedoms more than the fight. I wish I can say that about some of my critics who have pre-judged without knowledge what it is that I am doing.
Anyone who knows me knows that for the past forty years my efforts have expanded and protected our right to keep and bear arms from local city councils all the way to the United States Supreme Court.
Alan Gottlieb
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Got a quick response to my email. Two posts on it here and here.
Chill out and read this article. Gottlieb never said he supported the bill in question. Statement from him at the bottom.
http://www.examiner.com/article/firestorm-erupts-over-story-about-ccrkba-and-background-checks?cid=db_articles
Anonymous 5:47PM, read Gottlieb's statement. He said he supports universal preemptively-prove-your-innocence (background checks) fi he can get other concessions. Nice concessions, but nowhere near nice enough to compromise individual rights in WA state or to set the example for the grabbers that, "Look! Even Gottlieb and SAF -- of Heller fame -- think universal background checks are a good idea. So we can go ahead and do it nationally!"
I don't care what double-top-secret excuses -- not to be shared with the likes of us -- he claims to have. He just screwed every honest gunnie in the country for the sake of merely hoping he can get the WA registry killed. Whether or not the registry goes, his pro-background check precedent stands, and you can believe that the antis will not let us forget it..
No state has yet instituted so-called universal background checks without criminalizing private gun transfers.
REPEAT: Every place where “universal background checks” have become law, it has also become illegal to sell, give or transfer a firearm to another person without utilizing a federal firearms licensee, filing-out a Form 4473, and registering that ownership in a state-run database.
This is how all firearms transfers must be conducted in California. And based upon the recently passed legislation in Colorado, it will also be illegal to transfer firearms in that state without taking them first to an FFL dealer.
Also, as Dave Hardy has noted, universal background checks are meaningless without registration.
So whatever Alan Gottlieb thinks he may be doing, his actions are likely informed by ignorance and misinformation, because it is impossible to institute universal background checks without also instituting universal registration and forcing all transfers to take place on the premises of an FFL dealer.
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