Wednesday, May 07, 2014

Resistance is Futile?

Gary North said it, I believe it, that settles it? [More]

I mean, he was right about Y2K, wasn't he?

And y'all went right out and dumped Apple before it tanked, right?

I have no idea about the actual capabilities and intentions of some of the folks he's criticizing, and based on what Mike has revealed, there may indeed be some leadership issues that could bear out some of North's predictions.  My issue with his write-up is it seems to be a one-size-fits-all pronouncement on all armed resistance, everywhere and for always, which would mean "Second Amendment solutions" are forever useless.

I can't help but wonder what his recommendations for Lexington/Concord would have been.

As for Gandhi, Mike had something instructive to say about his tactics in the face of true ruthlessness
Had the Japanese got as far as India, Gandhi's theories of "passive resistance" would have floated down the Ganges River with his bayoneted, beheaded carcass. 
How the Bundy Ranch situation will play out is as yet unknown, but even if the worst of all outcomes happen, one engagement will not decide it all, especially since there are all kinds of options that have yet to be tried by people who are not surrounded, that is, who are everywhere.

All the eggs ain't in one basket.

12 comments:

Long Island Mike said...

I read your quote of Mike. Then I read it again. One more time. He did say India, right?

Has the world somehow had a brain fart? Forgotten a key part of the "Big War"? They Imperial Japanese Army did in fact make it to India during WWII. One of the pivotal battles did occur there. It was in all the newspapers. LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Imphal

Crotalus said...

I think that he has some valid points, especially about phone and video cameras. the guns are in case the feds fire first. ID the feds individually, and then see if we must fight. Facing a superior force is not too bright, but this info would be useful in blitzkrieg style raids against them. (See reference to Jeff Cooper.) Guerrilla warfare is what would be necessary here, after they think they are safe in their lairs.

Courts? The government owns the courts, so you will be found guilty. But when the feds are exposed to all the people to see, then they back down.

The Militia Act of 1903? Isn't that the formation of the National Guard, which is now part of the federal standing military, same as the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines?

Gandhi won, but at quite a cost, and he himself rued that the British disarmed his people. And what are we to think about the Shot Heard 'Round the World, which opened the ball on our War of Rebellion? Did we not win that war? Should we not have fired on the Redcoats?

So, in this rebellion, cameras are the primary weapons, but you better be damned sure to back it up with as much firepower as you can muster.

(Apologies, if this post is too warlike, and must be stricken.)

David Codrea said...

Crotalus--no issue with cameras, etc. --I have recommended the ability to record before here as a necessary tool--my objection was this:
"My issue with his write-up is it seems to be a one-size-fits-all pronouncement on all armed resistance, everywhere and for always, which would mean "Second Amendment solutions" are forever useless."
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LIM--I can't speak for Mr. V, but the battle you cited shows "Japanese armies attempted to destroy the Allied forces at Imphal and invade India, but were driven back into Burma with heavy losses." My read on Mike's statement is he was equating it to if they had militarily occupied India like they did so many other areas, the passive resistance crowd would have faced a very different kind of oppressor than the British, and Gandhi's passive resistance would have been eradicated with overwhelming brutality.

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of stuff Gary North writes that I like - such as being one of the very few to predict zero gun laws would pass after the CT shooting - but I think he is definitely wrong here.

If nothing else, the NV incident recently shows that the government bullies are complete cowards when they can be shot back. Not to mention Chris Dorner in LA - the cops, the feds, etc do not handle it very well when their opponents are not cowered into submission before any raids begin.

The Y2K stuff definitely made me laugh. Am I the only one who remembers hearing him on art bell over and over talking about the breakdown of society because of Y2k?

Anonymous said...

Don't conclude too soon that "no gun
laws" will pass after Sandy Hook/Newton.
Read this blog: they don't need no
stinkin' laws.

Anonymous said...

According to Alan Moorehead, as reported
by Clive James in his Cultural
Amnesia
Gandhi espoused non-violence
in part because of his belief that
the Japanese could not kill all the
people in India.

The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit said...

See further speculation at "The Last Article" by Harry Turtledove:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Article

Crotalus said...

I agree with your assessment, David. It is a one-size-fits-all worldview, and he doesn't see that enough of us could mount a credible resistance against the feds.

Ned said...

Long Island Mike - It's too bad the point about Gandhi was missed by you and others because of a minor mistake.

The point is this:
Gandhi was successful in his nonviolent revolution because England was the occupying force.

Gandhi knew the British well. He knew that they wouldn't, en masse, slaughter a group of non-violent protestors.

What Mike was saying was that, had the Japanese been in control at the time, instead of Great Britain, the conclusion would have likely been much different.

It's Sun Tzu thing - know you enemy. It's likely most people got the point. Too bad you didn't.

Anonymous said...

True - but you have to admit almost all the gun blogs and forums were convinced at least BG checks would pass at the bare minimum

David Codrea said...

Plenty of "gun laws" passed after Sandy Hook in COL, CT, NY... as for federal, it's not for lack of trying to include probes to see what/who they can throw under the bus by some of our "leaders' to "save" a preferred subset, and that is still going on, but yeah, the feds were held in check if we don't count Obama's executive actions and what some of their courts and agencies have ruled/allowed to stand.
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I don't think Long Island Mike missed the point. I think he was having fun and he told me something I didn't know, which is a good thing. MV may want to change that quote he's been using for years to "occupied" or some such.

Long Island Mike said...

DC you are correct. I fully understood and agree with the underlying point MV was making. I have this pet peeve about remembering historic stuff that seems to have gone down the memory hole. That yes the Japs made it as far as India. That they did invade America - thousands of sailors and soldiers fought them in Alaska. That we invaded Russia after the Communist Revolution...stuff even college students today are ignorant about. That idiots on TV make jokes about like Sarah Palin saying you can see Russsia from Alaska. Hell you can walk to Russia from Alaska on cold winters in the Diomede Islands 3 miles apart. Oh well, like you said I was having some fun.