There's only one mention of the FOIA results on the NFRTR on the Google News feed -- the one that irrefutably establishes government is prosecuting citizens based on demonstrably unreliable data. [More]
Just that alone ought to concern all, particularly civil liberties watchdogs. Narrowing things down more specifically, there's not a word from any of the national "gun rights" groups, nor do I see anything on so-called "conservative" sites specializing in rewording RKBA stories reported by others.
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It can't be they didn't hear about this, maybe the other RKBA sites think it's not worth their time.
Or it won't generate the amount of click-revenue...
Maybe, it's because we have known this since the early 90s. Not defending anyone, but when I saw it I said "what else is new". I remember hearing something like 90÷ records like 20 years ago.
"We" have? Then you should have no problem pulling up all kinds of links and discussions showing how dissemination has reached saturation point. Besides which, the FOIA results showing analyses of OIG surveys are new information.
Most so-called "activist" gun owners weren't active 20 years ago -- and for everyone who was, what did they do with it?
More to the point GBob; Of course those in the industry have known about this for decades....
What has changed is proving it with indisputable evidence generated by none other than DOJ itself.
That's DOJ, spelled the "department of just us"...Former home of Comey the Clown, and J. Edgar "How's the grandkids" Lynch.
The 90÷ number is just my recollection, subject to the vagaries of memory. I did a quick google-fu and found this clip, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv14RsepvHA. Don't know how old it is. I say "we" know, because I and some people I talk to know, and maybe that's just gun counter talk and "everyone" ignores it. It's like how every couple of years "it is discovered" that the batfreaks are keeping 4473 records in a searchable database, illegally. Again, it's something that "we" already knew. Nothing is ever done, because at the end of the day we have no power over the atf. Case in point, despite the excellent journalism done by a few (hat tip), no one has faced charges for fast and furious. I agree that everyone should know this stuff, but maybe they don't. Maybe someone should write a primer for "new gun people", a collection of abuses and lies that the atf has perpetrated on our people. I'd start with the stuff in Unintended Consequences, and update it from there.
Just spotted this,http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/06/dean-weingarten/u-s-monitors-solvent-trap-purchases-shares-the-data-with-australia-leads-to-arrests/. Again, "everyone" knows that legal non firearm purchases are tracked. But, every time it is "discovered", someone is hearing it for the first time. In the same vein, the number of gun owners I have had to explain fast and furious to, in Texas, in the last year, is downright embarrassing. I'm thinking it's at least 5, and that's only people who asked when they heard me mention it. Who knows how many haven't heard it, or just don't ask.
Guess this means that you're the cutting edge, which is a good thing. That others don't follow up on your lead makes me wonder if folks are really serious about keeping what few rights they have left, or if the hypnotizing influence of media has thoroughly brainwashed people into believing the government's and MSM's lies. After all, people line up to get a permission slip (CCW) from .gov to exercise a right they already have. It's taken decades to get legislation passed among a handful of states recognizing Constitutional carry. Wonder how long it'll take for the fed's version of that to pass, and how many court cases it'll take to force Kommifornia and other left coast states to recognize it. People just don't seem to get the idea that rights are not privileges that can be legislated away. Corporations have to knuckle under to commercial regulation (hence the "statutes" regulating the interstate firearms industry), but PRIVATE business is supposed to be PRIVATE - and unregulated. Miller didn't sell his sawed off shotgun to anybody outside of Oklahoma - and even if he did, it would have been a PRIVATE transaction, because he wasn't in the BUSINESS of dealing in guns.
It took only two generations of propagandizing to "educate" a nation of sheep. Wonder how long it will take to "uneducate" them back into men and women who can think for themselves.
-MM
Very first page of Google search for "nfrtr database" found this letter from 1998. http://www.titleii.com/bardwell/larson_atf_magaw_letter_re_groh.txt
Also, the YouTube video I linked was from 96.
I have been thinking about that idea of a catalogue of abuses to educate the new people of the gun, and I am thinking it would be a good idea. If people don't see the cycle of abuse, they certainly won't care about stopping it. Of course, seeing it doesn't mean they'll suddenly care. But having a documented and chronological list would sure be handy when people ask why we want to get rid of the atf, or why we don't believe that the current system works.
Go here Gbob:
http://www.nfaoa.org/resources.html
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