Monday, April 09, 2018

Yeah, Uh, No

The gun solution [More]
Licensing and other prior restraints ain't gonna fly.

Besides, he doesn't really think the "reducing gun deaths" misdirection is what drives the violence monopolists, does he, or that those who want it all will give anything back without a credible "or else" behind a demand?

[Via Jim S]


7 comments:

Anonymous said...

While the author posits that the recommendations will reduce gun violence it doesn't explain how they will. Reading between the lines I deduce that private party transfers are a significant source of firearms used in violent crimes. A dubious assumption unless you believe prohibited persons acquire their guns from private party transfers where the transferer assumes the transferee isn't a prohibited person. Several survey's of convicts contradict the assumption. Also, requiring a license to purchase while not being gun registration is a list of law abiding citizens & legal immigrants who likely possess guns. And it is not unreasonable to fear that the government will seize them in the future. Just ask the CA owners of SKS rifles who acquired them 1989 & 2000 and registered them in 2000. Also unless the state assumes all the costs associated with training & processing the licensee will be forced to spend money for exercising a unalienable right codified in the Constitution. This is no different than an unconstitutional poll tax.

Anonymous said...

“A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.”

– Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

David Codrea said...

You sure about that?

Anonymous said...

Hello David,

Thank you for your reply, and thank you for the information that I did read in your reply. No David, I am not certain that this quote is attributed to him. You have my sincerest apology if I have posted anything here that does not stand up to documented historical facts, and please remove my post if you see fit to do so. I do not want to lead anybody down the rabbit hole of conjecture.
Here is a link below to information that I have read, and I am highly skeptical of the source. There is no wording of "licensing or registration" in this text that I recognize. Could you please let me no what you think of it?

Kind Regards,

Steven.

reddit.com
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/16kqi0/what_was_official_gun_policy_under_lenin_stalin/

David Codrea said...

Just something I bring up from time to time... I wasn't scolding -- I just think it's important for "us" to be accurate, and when we're not, it gives the enemy an opening to attack "our" credibility and dismiss everything else "we" claim. In re the Reddit link, interesting and worthy of revisiting when I have time. Soviet disarmament seems like it would be a good topic to explore in depth, but I fear much of the effort would entail more than a Google search, and require advanced historical research and Russian language skills, along with the resources to visit archives and the contacts to open up ones that have been closed.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the link provided in your reply. Not for a second did I think you were scolding, and you are absolutely right about the importance and accuracy of our claims. Soviet disarmament would be a labor in the making, even with the proper skills. Could be a tangled mess. Currently, we have enough to deal with our own Soviet style disarmament from the "Politburo" east of the Patomac."Thank you for looking at the Reddit link, your insight is appreciated.

Kind Regards,

Steven

Archer said...

Anonymous [4/09/2018 4:04 PM]: With respect, BJ Campbell, in his prior articles (this was part 6 of a series) openly admits that because 2/3 of "gun deaths" are suicides, reducing suicides should be the first priority to reduce "gun death". Not "gun violence" or "gun homicide". Just "gun death".

IIRC, he concedes in an earlier article (part 1 or part 2) that reducing "gun deaths" is not the Left's primary goal. If it were, suicides (in general, regardless of method) are the best place to start as it will effect the largest reduction. (Reducing "gun death" is admittedly a secondary effect, but the reasoning is that the secondary effect of reducing suicides would make a larger dent in "gun deaths" than any "gun control" proposal -- in that very-narrow argument, he's probably correct.) And it can be significantly reduced WITHOUT any new laws, WITHOUT building comprehensive registries, and WITHOUT banning or confiscating guns.

But I agree, gun owner licensing and mandatory training are non-starters, for all the reasons you give and more.