Monday, January 19, 2009

Sporting Purpose Censorship

Last week I was reading a column by National Gun Rights Examiner David Codrea about the new draconian legislation introduced by some liberal idiot from Illinois (that seems to be the state's greatest export).

I couldn't help but to notice the unusual number of comments left on this particular column and took a look. The bulk of the comments seemed to be in response to another National Examiner Columnist. [More]
FatWhiteMan feels he's being suppressed by a guy SayUncle had harsh words for.

Y'all will forgive me if I don't delve deeper into rocking this boat. In full disclosure, out of pure self-interest, I don't want to lose the good will of Examiner management.

I almost didn't post this because of it, but censoring out stuff that doesn't violate my policies (no threats, no trolls, no --is this a word?--agent-provocateuring, no saying the "f" word unless you're Straightarrow, who always does it so colorfully) just because it may put me in an uncomfortable situation is not my style...

5 comments:

Kurt '45superman' Hofmann said...

. . . liberal idiot from Illinois (that seems to be the state's greatest export).

He oughtta see how many we keep here ;-).

Anonymous said...

I see two different points here. One being seen very clear and the other I'm not sure I understand.
First off, the part about IL exporting nothing but idiots. The state exports a lot of guns to jackasses who buy them in other states. Needless to say, I will never buy any gun from the state of IL because I know the taxes on that guy go directly to liberals who are trying to destroy my country. If you buy from a gun maker from IL they just gave some money to the very people who will have no problem enslaving you and your children.
The next point of this guy's views is I take it some how he's attacking David if I'm reading that correctly. I'm shallow or he's not being very clear because it sounds like he's taking a shot at David but he's not being clear on the details.
If he is taking a shot my hunch is he's trying to get a free ride on David's coattails. If he's not he may want to learn to make his point clear. The only thing I got out of the read was, nothing but echo's of what I have been seeing for years. So what's new?

Anonymous said...

AvgJoe,

As a gun-owning IL resident who does everything in his power to support gun rights, I'm not so sure that your approach of boycotting gun manufacturers in IL is wise.

First, it is not the fault of a manufacturer that they are in a state which has such unreasonable anti gun laws. Just like most companies, gun manufacturers usually stay in the state in which they were founded, and many were founded long before Illinois became so anti gun. Picking up and moving to another state may not be a viable option, due to monetary constraints and a desire not to put all of the non-portable employees out of work.

Secondly, I don't think that it would be a good thing for gun rights if IL were to lose its gun manufacturers, either due to boycotts forcing them out of business, or due to the manufacturers moving out of state. Were the manufacturers to leave, there would be fewer pro gun voices to oppose new gun control laws. At first, that might not matter to non IL residents, but as you know, gun control schemes are often copied from one state to another. Perhaps some new IL anti gun law would be passed this year, and then adopted in your state 5 years down the road. Also, with fewer gun manufacturers, and more gun control, the ordinary citizens will be exposed to fewer gun owners who could explain the problems with gun control, allowing the anti gun mentality to strengthen its grip on IL citizens.

Anonymous said...

I understand your point and have thought it out many times in the past. Here's where we disagree. I believe in voting with your feet and gun manufactures need to leave that state. To just stay there because they started there and keep giving serous money to that system that uses that money to destroy the United States Constitution is crazy.
Look the people behind these anti-gun laws are Marxist or useful idiots of Marxist. These people have a huge problem with the Second Amendment because the kind of government they want to impose on the American people can't be done on an armed citizen population. Knowing this simple fact and seeing one attack after another to destroy that part of our Constitution. No sane person can willing give these Constitution hater money to keep at it. There is a line in the sand and to disregard that line because its a hassle to move is to damn your children and their children. What a oxymoron that some of these gun manufactures use the American eagle and flag to promote their products. At the same time knowing they are paying off evil people who are out to enslave the American people. So if the Marxist win, will these same gun manufactures build firearms for the guards that are using them to control the panic lines of people at the death camps?
Look friend, its like a wreck on the freeway. The first few cars slow down 5 mph but the ones behind need to slow down a little more until the traffic is dead stopped. At what point are the IL gun manufactures going to put their foot down? While I'm waiting on them to do the right thing I'm going to do the right thing myself. I'm never going to buy from anyone in that state. I'm voting with my cash as I have in the past with my feet.

Anonymous said...

I wish I knew how to make my off-the-rack civilian semi-auto AR-15 "spray bullets with one pull of the trigger." It just refuses.
Then again,no, I don't. Not because of the stupid laws involved, but because my pointer-finger is fast enough on the trigger for me.
I am actually nauseous over the other side's continued repetition of that lie. But then, people are scared of muzzleloaders, too. Rate of fire is just an excuse among many, and fashionable this year. Before, it was collapsible stocks making M-16-style semi-autos "concealable," and flash hiders making shooters "invisble to police."
The three-position stock makes sense on a carbine (shorter-barreled rifle). The flash hider diverts muzzle flash from the SHOOTER'S point of view to reduce vision impairment in low light. The stream of burning propellant gases is VERY visible from the TARGET'S position.
Sheesh.
Anyway, if societal advances involving our essential rights are not covered under the Constitution and BoR, then the thing was obsolete before all the states ratified it.
That dog won't hunt. But I will. Come and take it. Follow the flashes and popping noise... as long as you can.