Wednesday, August 16, 2006

Questions and Answers V

[Parts I, II, III and IV]

Mr. Licht goes on:
Wouldn’t it be more meaningful for us to promote the compact made with US by the Founders when they pledged "Our lives our fortunes and our sacred honor" that your children and mine would live free? With regular pitchfork parties at the "government houses". Are U.S. Citizens sooooo gutless that they will not stand up to a government that works for them? Are we a nation of girls? (Rhetorical questions, I know). Maybe we should be shaming the masses instead of hyping them on the second. What is your view? (Is it time to contemplate the need or the inevitability of having to "water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots")?
Of course we should be educating ourselves in--and promoting--liberty and the vision of the Founders, as well as new freedom insights that have been developed since that time. And yes, it's perfectly rational to "contemplate" the tripwires where actual resistance to tyranny is morally justified, and how some of those have been triggered already.

You'll recall earlier I used the term "critical mass." I'll get back to that concept in a later posting, along with another belief I hold--it's not so much gutlessness, although that plays a part, as apathy.

Isn’t it long past time for civil disobedience and non cooperation? Isn’t it time to teach your (our / all) children that confiscation is inevitable. It’s a deliberate plot against the populace. That citizens should never cooperate, register or report? Shouldn’t second amendment focused organizations and publications start promoting non registration, parents buying for their children so the children are never "on record", acknowledging that the government has already so far overstepped their authority that they can not be trusted and to act defensively for the future safety of our children and our country? i.e. REALITY.

You bet it is, and some of us have stuck our necks out to promote that message. Comment poster "jomama" hit it when he asked "Why not just do it and tell no one, whatever it is you want to do? I do."

The problem with this is, not getting caught ain't the same as being free. And if and when he does, there will be no shortage of gun forum chat room warriors snorting how "he knew the law, got what he deserved and makes the rest of us look bad."

If the minders won’t mind the borders at the minimum when in excess of 70% of the population is demanding to close the borders - why should any thinking person believe the government, bent on one worldism will ever protect the constitution or the citizens god given inalienable rights to anything?????
I think the problem with this analysis is that the population really isn't "demanding"--because that implies there would be consequences if the demand is not met.

Shouldn’t we be screaming that totalitarianism is coming at light speed? Instead of this constant fund raising subterfuge that the second amendment will someday form the basis of a winning lawsuit that will set the U.S. back on a constitutional course and abolish all gun laws, blah, blah, blah, blah, promote the myth? Isn’t this just delusion and masturbation and mental disorder????
We can scream, but without fundraising, who will hear? And while I've covered the dangers of a lawsuit, and the liklihood that it will cast "intermediate scrutiny" in stone for untold years, I wouldn't throw any tool out of the kit.

If we keep up all this sound and fury promoting an argument that can never move the reality forward and we are just flailing about chanting a mantra that is effectively a political divide and conquer and slight of hand strategy to dilute and pacify / pussify the electorate.........Aren’t we mentally ill? Or DUMB????
I've come to a different conclusion than you about this--we won't be able to truly defend ourselves until we achieve that critical mass I keep cryptically referring to, and you can't do that without education and outreach.

Are we passing the point of no return where in the second amendment (and many of the others, 1st, 4th, 5th, etc..), no, the Constitution will be stolen from our children without a shot being fired by the absolute worthless, embarrassing, self serving, pandering, lowest common denominator dunderheaded "alleged representatives" from top to bottom, petite totalitarians and soccer moms and the lowest common denominator educational / indoctrination system "we" have built?
That could be--or it could be just the opposite. We've seen historical examples of tyrants standing down when the people stood up. Let's keep building that critical mass.

Have we be been completely screwed by the "greatest generation" who having won WWII, sat on their fat assess and voted entitlement and totalitarianism into this country and hope to party till the lights go out and save the bill for their grandchildren and die before they have to see the damage they have delivered their future generations?
We could argue this point and it wouldn't get us closer to a solution. I know my parents didn't sit around--they didn't have time. They were too busy building so their children wouldn't suffer the hardships they had overcome--circumstances that would break many from our generation. In any case, that torch has been passed.

More to come.

8 comments:

Ken said...

"We've seen historical examples of tyrants standing down when the people stood up. Let's keep building that critical mass."

Hear, hear. It's slow. It's unromantic. It will work.

nicolas said...

We keep talking about this critical mass. I agree that it's vital. I agree that if acheived, things will turn around. What I'm not sure of, is that we're actually gaining ground. Does anyone have any evidence of this? It'd be a tradgedy for us to feverishly lobby for adherents, all the while having our numbers shrink as a percentage of the population.

If the evidence exists (and I do not doubt that it does), I'd like to hear it as it would cheer me up on the subject.

David Codrea said...

Yes, Reason.

Patience.

I will devote a (later) posting to it, because it is a central tenet and I don't want it lost in comments.

I know this is frustrating and it can seem like a lot of chatter with no conclusions so far. That's just the way it's gotta be-- you need to lay out the pieces before you can start assembling things. And then you've gotta do it in order.

nicolas said...

I'm perfectly okay with laying things out systematically. I'd have it no other way. I just didn't want to pass over this point without giving it a little more meat. Since the evidence is apparently forthcoming, I'll shut up and wait like everyone else.

Stan said...

Im afraid and yet anxious that the inevitable nationalization of not the argument but fight for the second, first, fourth, for liberty will ensue from a shot, rather than speech.

Anonymous said...

They've been working to 'boil the frog' by adding candle after small candle under the pot. We've been blowing them out as fast as we can. Which side will win? Well, it has gotten a bit warm in here but the wind is picking up...

(in other words, I don't know)

The 'good' thing is is that we haven't (yet) given up the option of a noisier response.

E. David Quammen said...

Brought it up on the first post of this series. And I'll bring it up again now. Our rights are God-given, Natural and Unalienable.

The founders relied on God to win theirs and our freedom.

Why cannot the same formula, FAITH, be used again?

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