Monday, July 30, 2007

For All You Folks...

...relying on majority rule democracy to save us...

And the sad thing is, the question doesn't appear particularly loaded.

Nice to see our friends the "small government Republicans" taking such a significant lead in endorsing the police state...

What I don't see is how this is weighted for what part of the country people live in.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

David:

Bless you for your efforts.

I don't see how things get rolled back once the 21st century version of Orwell is fully deployed....

May G-d help us all....

Kent McManigal said...

The more the authoritards crack down on liberty, the more they paint themselves into a bloody corner.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure how much validity there is to this poll. It appears that ABC broke the responses down among party lines and who the respondents supported for president in '08. I did not notice that they mentioned how large their sample population was or how they administered the poll. Yes, I'm picky. However, I am increasingly tired of the authorised yahoos pulling numbers out of their anal orifices.

That being said, I am not sure that the majority of people in the US think that the cameras etc... are bad until they suffer the consequences of their existence. Remember, we have all that propaganda on the boob tube showing us just how effective those cameras are. Various security cameras show up regularly in all of the crime dramas at the very least.

David Codrea said...

Gregg--yeah they did--not in the news story, but in the poll itself, also linked to:

METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone
July 18-21, 2007, among a random national sample of 1,125 adults. Additional interviews were conducted with an oversample of randomly selected African-Americans for a total of 210 black respondents. The results have a three-point error margin. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa.

Stan said...

I have grown to love federalism, the representation of interests, property, etc, as well as individuals. But we've been slowly heading toward nationalized majority rule, even if that majority is isolated in a few metropolitan centers. Similarly, we're not far from socialized healthcare.

Anonymous said...

Don't blame me, I didn't vote for this. I think it's a waste of money, and it doesn't prevent crime. Of course, my definition of crime is different from that which is held by others.

Anonymous said...

Well David, that just supports my supposition. How could a sample of 1,125 adults with an oversample of 200 African Americans be statistically significant? Not to mention that telephone polling in and of itself restricts the population polled. Many people who dislike the surveillance, or who are concerned with how Orwellian our society is becoming, will not likely participate in such a poll.

I don't think we are at the point where those with the wrong opinions will be rounded up. However, just look at some of the ATF's shenanigans and think about the next step. I wish it was hard to imagine American agencies cooperating to silence opposition.

David Codrea said...

Thing is, Gregg, that is a statistically valid sample and they use similar ones all the time because they know--for the most part--they are pretty reliable indicators. That's why politicians pay big bucks to polling firms.

Gregg, I've worked on numerous elections and issues where sampling like this was done--not to cover as big a population, admittedly, but still, the margins on this one are so wide I'd be shocked if they didn't reflect prevailing sentiment. The only thing I need explained to me is why the oversampling of blacks, but that doesn't expalin the prevalence among other demographics, particularly among Republicans and whites, who support the proposal most of all.

Everything you said is true, but they factor that in with their margin of error.