Tuesday, May 19, 2009

We Have Met the Enemy...

...and he is us. [More]

[Via Ron W]
Posted by David Codrea at 5/19/2009 02:24:00 PM

9 comments:

AvgJoe said...

You guys need to read this because its well written. And can make in roads to people who are on the road to getting it.

5/19/2009 3:51 PM
W W Woodward said...

Also follow the links. Even though I've at least scanned most of the info before, I found an interesting statement in Lincoln's 1st inaugural address.

"You have no oath registered in Heaven to destroy the government, while I shall have the most solemn one to "preserve, protect and defend" it."

"It"? The government? or the Constitution?

Does this sound familiar?

5/19/2009 4:04 PM
Avegoe said...

W, I noticed that as well and believe he means the government. He wasn't happy about the Tenth Amendment as was laying the gound work to put the needs of government over the demands of the Constitution place on that government. You should change your handle to Hawkeye because that was an execllent find.
This link/story is outstanding because of the links which make it for people starting to "get it" to have something to chew on. Yet not over load them with too much.

5/19/2009 5:31 PM
drjim said...

This is a bit OT, but the title of his post made me think of it. I used to work for DirecTV at one of the uplinks where they send the programming up to the satellites. We were the uplink for latin America, and often times we'd laugh at some of the translations that were used for American movies. When the Wil Smith movie "Enemy of the State" was being broadcast, the name had been changed to "Public Enemy". I always thought it was a strange translation, but then realized we were beaming it to Mexico and South America, and the governments in power there were probably more comfortable with the name change, considering the level of "freedom" their citizens enjoy.

5/19/2009 6:27 PM
AvgJoe said...

Being folks have missed this point of the link of the story. I'll cut the chase.
WJC pulled off the what does "is" mean, Hello!!! Who in the hell do you think he got that from????
Good old Abe the first president to attack and destroy the meaning of the Constitution with is "it" line.
If any of you have a clue to the degree WJC's education you would know is a snap he played off of AL's and his first word in office directly after taking the oath. Lincoln was splitting hairs and WJC as a top shelf legal scholar knew this and played on it, duh! History repeats itself.
Please someone help me!

5/20/2009 12:21 AM
Sean said...

Very little inducement is needed to view the Nazis and the Japs in WW2 as demons, but Gaddy throws them in too. I don't know how you gloss over their murdering,rapist,thieving ways, but I guess I'm just demonizing too much. Perhaps Mr.Gaddy is just too lofty for me.

5/20/2009 9:18 AM
jon said...

you don't have to demonize whole countries to hold the government-hired armies of tyranny responsible for murder.

think of it this way: if tomorrow americans found themselves in a fight with their own government, would they accept the aid of an invading army twice the size of the tyrannical portion of their government? the only one i can think of that could ever come close to this is the chinese army. i don't think i'd want that "help," especially if it means, just for example, firebombing our cities into rubble, as was done to dresden.

if the whole rest of the world is as stupid and fearful of liberty as the pre-nazi germans were, then so be it. america was to be a shining light on a hill -- an example for others to climb up to, not a watchtower to rain bullets and bombs down from. there's no sieging an economic superpower of liberty-loving people. even the roman empire couldn't take afghanistan from paupers who loved liberty.

5/20/2009 12:30 PM
Sean said...

Near a I can tell, the Romans were not involved in Afghanistan. The Germans and the Japanese citizens were either complicit in helping their nations along, or did not resist, and as for demonizing whole nations, local patrons included, American airmen shot down over those countries in WW2 stood a fify-fifty chance of being cut up like paper by them, before the cops or soldiers arrived. The Germans and Japanese did not stop killing us and our allies until virtually every city was flattened, millions had died, and annihilation was a real threat. You'd have been hysterical on Iwo Jima, and I wouldn't give odds on who it was that got you, ours or theirs. And if America, the citizens, are so horrible to you, go look in the mirror. The Germans and the Japs got what was coming to them. That's how it goes with our enemies. You also don't seem to remember we have saved whole continents from starvation, and that charities in this country help millions worldwide with medical, construction, and infrastructure improvements. But we're just the war mongers, raining down bombs and missles everywhere, according to you. You wouldn't know a demon if it bit you.

5/20/2009 4:40 PM
straightarrow said...

What Sean said. Without the accomodaters tyrants cannot rise and long endure. So yes, whole populations of nations can legitimately be demonized when their accomodations of the tyrants result in horrors against humanity.

5/21/2009 6:56 PM

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