Senate Backs Apology for Slavery...I don't know about a collective response, but my individual response is I'm not apologizing for anything I didn't do, and I don't authorize anyone to apologize on my behalf.
"You wonder why we didn't do it 100 years ago," Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), lead sponsor of the resolution, said after the unanimous-consent vote. "It is important to have a collective response to a collective injustice." [More]
Besides, as far as I'm concerned, slavery is being expanded to include us all. I think our efforts are better spent exposing overseers like Harkin for the evil frauds that they are.
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He wonders why we didn't do it 100 years ago? Because back then we acted instead of talking. Several of my ancestors fought to free the slaves and maintain the union. several more that were not slave owners nonetheless fought to preserve state's rights in the South. I know their names and where the families still live. No one has mistreated blacks from that day to this.
I authorize NO ONE to make mealy-mouthed useless apologies on my behalf - or theirs.
Slavery is an injustice that persists in the world, some of the worst offenders being Most Favored Nation trade partners of the United States. Our State Department has made a conscious decision to not let human rights issues interfere with economic policies that benefit the Elites of all contries concerned. This didn't start on the Obama watch, either. It's an example of bipartisan cooperation that goes waaaaay back.
As they take OUR freedom, other countries say "See, we knew they couldn't make it last."
Liberty is an anomaly.
I think Massah has an interesting point. Maybe the anti-s think NOW is THE time to jab states' rights in the eye. The movement to shrug off federal chains is gaining momentum. People who should know better succumb to the "states rights=slaver empire" screed. Publik skools.
When these idiots can't find anything unconstitutional to do, they do something stupid. While they're at it, they should apologize to the 320,000 Union soldiers who actually died doing something about slavery. And as far as collective, they can shove it. Harkin isn't smart enough to be an overseer. He's a fungus.
I wonder if my children will see a day after I'm long gone where the government will do the same for white men whom suffered a life time of Affirmative Action.
Anyone want to take a stab at the odds of that one ever happening?
Why didn't they do it a hundred years ago? Because the fucking democrats were too busy committing racist acts, thats why.
And while we are on the subject, when are the blacks going to acknowledge the hundreds of thousands of whites who sacrificed so much to free them?
None of my ancestors or relatives owned slaves or were rich enough to have the means to purchase one. Many died in the Union Army that provide the force to enable Emancipation, including one that fought in the Washington, DC Cavalry and died in the notorious Confederate-run prison camp in Salisbaury, NC, home to Elizabeth Dole. Only Andersonville's prison camp had a worse reputation and lower survival rate.
Aplogize for what guilt?
Collectivism is a European concept.
I am American.
144 years ago, we DID "apologize" for slavery. In blood. So knock this garbage off!
despite the work of court historians to masquerade the facts with jingoism, "the war of the rebellion," as it is officially called, was not fought to end slavery, nor for preservation of the union as it was understood at the time, but rather a new kind: featuring internal improvements, and the henry clay "american system" -- a template for later socialist republics of europe to mimic.
read the real lincoln and see if you blood does not boil over that. there is also lincoln unmasked to supplement it in full detail.
plenty of our ancestors did what they saw was right during those days. they ought not be looked down upon for involvement, that would be collectivist in and of itself. the historical record will show which individuals fought with honor and which raped and pillaged.
nonetheless, lincoln betrayed the entire nation with an unnecessary war.
I am Spartacus.
Oh wait ... wrong slave.
Never mind.
Anyway, today the groveling.
Tomorrow the reparations.
40 acres and an AK-47.
It's nice that a bunch of politicians are finally willing to admit that something was wrong, but I think that the (surviving) people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. would probably prefer that the Evil Empire maybe put a stop to their present evil before apologizing for past evil.
Well said Jon....
Too many never do any independent study and learn the true history of "the war of the rebellion"...(that it really had very little to do with slavery.)
If anyone believes that involuntary servitude was abolished, have a look at the stub from your paycheck...then add to that all the "add on" taxes that are paid when you make purchases etc.
Slavery never ended...
As for reparations...each freed slave was offered portage back to their homeland....most refused the offer and wanted to stay here (who could blame them considering overall conditions where they cam from)
Not to mention that a majority of their ancestors have been "reparated" for generations through the welfare system.
Methinks enough is enough....
Let's talk about reparations.
Let's discuss Sherman's war on Southern civilians. Let's discuss the use of Confederate officers as human shields for union troops. Let's take a look at Lincoln's stand on slavery up until the grand idea of emancipating all the blacks who were still in Confederate held territories and ignoring the slaves in union held areas. Let's discuss the black Americans who bore arms for the confederacy and did so for the same reasons white troops did, to protect their homes and families from northern aggression. Let’s talk about the death rate of Confederate POWs in union prisons. Lets’ discuss what happened to black Confederates who ended up in union POW camps.
Confederate States seceded from the union over what was considered at the time excessive tariffs and taxes and because of the union’s meddling with state’s rights. Little did they know! The morality of slavery did not become an issue until well into the war. There were damn few union officers who were willing to lead black troopers because the unionists were as racially prejudiced as the history books like to portray Southerners. The union army was segregated up until the end of WWII. The blacks who soldiered with their fellow white Confederates fought side by side.
Reparations? Apologies? Reparations and apologies be damned. The war has been over since 1865 and the central government has been getting stronger, more intrusive, and more controlling and overbearing ever since.
I’ve heard for years, “America, love it or leave it.” The Southern States tried to leave it and were ass kicked and forced to return. It appears that “leave it” is not an option. We’re gonna have to draw our line in the sand and refuse to back down right here. Mama Liberty said a while back, something to the effect, “There ain’t gonna be a disturbance unless you start it.”
All the while, we need to remember that the rightest man who ever lived got hanged on a cross for his troubles. We really can’t expect much better treatment.
I like the idea of reparations. The US government should provide a DNA test to determine which tribe someone is likely from and what area of Africa that corresponds to. Then to make it all better we pay for a one way ticket back home. I'd even throw in the price of a five acre farm complete with mud hut in the deal. In exchange all they have to do is permanently renounce US citizenship and any further claims against this country that they obviously hate so much.
That's my idea of reparations, put them back as close as humanly possible to where they'd be if their great great etc grandparents had been a bit fleeter of foot when the next tribe over went hunting for trade goods.
In fairness after all.
anon, no, Andersonville was not the worst. The worst POW camp of the Civil War was a Union camp. Camp Douglas just outside Chicago.
Check it out. Higher death rates, higher starvation rates, even though the Union had food and access to medical care lacking in the South.
The morbidity rate at Camp Douglas can reliably said to have been intentional, unlike the problems of scarity of the pillars of life in the South.
As for reparations, I'm ok with it. When do I get my check from all the grateful descendants of all those black folks who ended up free as a result of the monumental sacrifice of all those white folks who mistakenly thought that was what the war was about and went and died in the hundreds of thousands to secure freedom for them.
The war was about other issues, but the fact that most conscripts and volunteers were misled about the purpose does nothing to diminish their sacrifice or nobility of character in making it. And here we are just talking about union soldiers.
The Confederate soldier was also exhibiting nobility of character in fighting to preserve his home and his liberty. The issue of slavery was rightfully viewed by the Confederate soldier as a non-issue in the reason for the war.
So, when is the NAACP, CORE, or the SPLC going to cut my check?
By the way, my family should receive more the standard as my ancestors were forcibly removed from landed estates, farms, and bushinesses that are now occupied by the descendants of many of those freed slaves. Will they cut me two checks or just combine all my reparations into one?
Fact and check it out for yourself:
April 11, 1960 the CSA's Constitution abolished slavery on that day.
There were many slaves in the north until the 13th Amendment which was passed after the Civil War.
A few facts that never seem to come to light.
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