All it took to attain one was a driver’s license (the one we used was from out of state) and a few minutes to wait for the background check to clear. We signed state-issued proof of sale documents that asked whether we were felons or drug addicts, and where we lived. [More]First of all,what's with the royal "we"? That sounds like a "straw purchase." Who bought the gun and how does someone with an out-of-state DL do that and then have Andy just walk out with it?
And then there's this:
We attempted to return the AR-15 to the shop where we purchased it. Despite having a return policy, they refused. So we opted to turn the gun over to Orlando police, who said they would have it destroyed.So they filled out sec. 11.a. on the 4473 knowing they had no intention of buying the gun for themselves?
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My understanding is that FFLs can do direct transfers of long guns even if the buyer is out of state, though that's probably dependent on state law. A pistol, though, would have to be shipped to an FFL in their home state, who would then run another 4473 and transfer it to the buyer. Treating the two differently is silly as far as I'm concerned. If you pass the NICS check you should get the gun.
And the police are going to destroy a perfectly good rifle. I'm sure that makes a certain crowd feel good in their special place.
As we know, guns in police custody sometimes go missing, get stolen, whatever, and get used in crimes. If this rifle winds up that way, or is found not to have been destroyed, the ATF will run a trace on it. That'll start with the manufacturer, go to the dealer, then to the purchaser. Who's then going to say they gave it to the police. Is there a record of that transfer?
I started reading the comments, but didn't get far. The infringers are out in force.
Steve-
I hope you caught the story recently of an audit done by a California TV station about guns missing from Bay Area police departments. If I remember correctly, San Jose alone had over 300 missing, including service pistols and AR's. The spokesman made it sound like it was no big deal, that they were working to improve the situation. Maybe I'm cynical, but I can't help but wonder how many of these missing guns might be found in gun safes in the homes of the department's officers.
The part of the 'We need more gun laws' debate the infringers seem to miss is that gun laws are written and enforced by people that seem to show less honesty and integrity than the people who are affected by those laws.
Steve, the same rules apply to handguns as well as long guns. You cannot buy one out of State and not do a transfer to your State. If what he states in the article is true, crimes were committed.
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