Tuesday, January 22, 2008

We're the Only Ones Automatically Recovered Enough

Wayne police have found a rapid-fire submachine gun that had been missing for at least two weeks.

But they won't say exactly where the nine-millimeter weapon turned up on Monday.
Oh, gee, I wonder why.

We might ask the "Authorized Journalists" why they didn't press on this point, or what New Jersey "Only Ones" intend to do with such weapons--particularly when, based on results we can see the lax control they employ in their keeping. But I'm actually more interested in finding out where one can get a magazine for an MP5 that's between around 22 and 27 feet long to accommodate being able to "shoot 700 to 900 rounds per minute."

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they actually found it, or lied to the press to minimize a public scandal.

Not that the "Authorized Journalists" are competent to be able to tell the difference.

Anonymous said...

David,
Uhhmmmm, belt fed???

David Codrea said...

Gregg--a belt fed MP5?

The reporter was just quoting rate of fire stats without a clue--people who don't know any better watch movies and the bursts are endless. I'd bet he truly didn't know.

Anonymous said...

David,
Well that's the only way I know to actually feed that amount of ammo through a firearm. No, I haven't seen one, but I know people who would think it a cool project.

People who are not familiar with firearms will use the cyclic rate, partially because it sounds so scary. Logic, sadly does not rear its head in either the reporters mind, nor sadly in the minds of many of their readers.

Sean said...

Uh, Dude. Rate of fire refers to the number of cartridges that will pass through the reciever,fire, and eject as casings, in a given amount of time. If cartridges kept coming at that rate, for one minute, that is the guns' rate of fire. Machineguns can be modified to fire at a slower, or faster rate, depending on the whether command, usually at Army level, wants either. Cyclic rate refers to magazine fed guns, the rate of cyclic fire being what tested as the fastest one person could reload and fire full magazines when tested. A sustained rate of fire on a belt fed machine gun would be its' rate during normal operation, given enough belts to continously link them and continously fire without ceasing, for one minute. Most machine guns overheat and jam at about 500-600 rpms, so a 6-9 round burst is recommended, to conserve ammo, and to postphone overheating. The MG 34 and 43 were highly regarded because their sustained rate was 800-1000 rpms, but it wasted ammo, and overheated, leading to a quick barrel change, with often fatal results if the people being shot at weren't hit and knew how to shoot,scoot,and communicate.In a personal dust-up in Cambodia,1970, using 6-9 round bursts(approx.) I burned up three M-60 barrels in a firefight lasting 48 hrs. I wasn't the original designated gunner. Nobody can shoot 700-900 rds per minute through an MP5, so yep, David I know your point about panty-wetting journalists trying to paint this monstrous picture in peoples heads of this gun firing that many rounds,"in the street". But the rate of fire is correct, it's cyclic and sustained rates being much lower. A well-trained person could Maybe fire 300 rpms, but that is also a basic load, and then you're out. The more you shoot, the less you'll hit.

Anonymous said...

I posted a comment on the site from which the article came. I hope that gets the ball rolling.

Sean said...

Uh, Dude. Upon further review, Sean has problably made several key errors when he was holding forth in his last bloviation. If corrected by someone in the know, accepted, and gratefully.

Ken said...

You need a Mag of Holding....