No one claims that getting a driver’s license infringes on their right to drive a car. There is no “God-given” right or “constitutional” right to drive a car without a license. And despite gun lobbyists’ claims to the contrary, there is no God-given or constitutional right to carry a concealed gun in public without a permit or training. [More]
I do.
Yes, there is.
And the Constitution doesn't define our rights.
Go impose your religious beliefs on someone else.
[Via Jess]
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Actually, in most places you're free to drive a vehicle without a license, as long as you stay on your own property. Farm kids have been driving around their own farms as long as there have been motor vehicles and farm kids.
Further, a right to drive a motor vehicle is never mentioned in the Constitution of the United States or in the Declaration of Independence with the possible exception of the Ninth Amendment. That amendment says that the rights mentioned in the first 8 amendments are not a complete list.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms however and/or its origin as a creator given right is mentioned in both.
And then there's the little seldom cited problem of US v Cruikshank in which the Supreme Court ruled that yes, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms comes from a "creator" not from government, and that the Second Amendment merely says the government cannot infringe upon it.
At least not legally.
You might want to look up Jefferson's opinions of what constitutes a government worth keeping.
Eggert does three things typical of the control movement:
1. He compares apples and steak: The Constitution makes no mention of driving, while the 2nd is explicit, painfully so, about the right to arms.
2. He does not explain his contention about the right to arms.
3. He makes his argument in a venue that does not allow open discussion. A letter to the editor is the only option available to answer.
He's a liar and a coward.
(Not to mention Article I, Section 8, clause 16, about Congress's ignored power to train and equip the militia; nor does he mention 10USC133, which defines the militia as all male US citizens between the ages of 17 and 45.)
You know why I think cars and guns are different?
One reason is that a multi-ton machine moving at high speed in close proximity to others is very dangerous; far more dangerous than guns. 6 million car accidents a year, with 30-40k dead. That's WAY less than guns. If guns were like a car, the gun is: loaded, unholstered, pointed at people randomly, with the finger on the trigger. And when you accidentally shoot someone the consequences are a minimal fine, at best, and the insurance company makes the whole thing go away. That's the real analogy.
You want to license gun ownership? Fine, but then like cars, I get to own whatever I want without restrictions or a background check, bought in any manner I choose.
I don't cede that point either.
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