UPDATE: Matt Bracken has a graphic of his own.
Thursday, February 21, 2013
New Product Idea
UPDATE: Matt Bracken has a graphic of his own.
Somebody's Slipping
Newspaper delivery woman? And no shots were fired? [Read]
On the plus side, the years of indoctrination have paid off. The flower of youth is now scared of everything!
Campaign Finance Reform
Wasn't the object of the whole flap to keep a powerful special interest from being able to use money to unduly influence elections? [Read]
No? It was to keep lots of people from pooling their resources to make their voices heard?
No? It was to keep lots of people from pooling their resources to make their voices heard?
Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Because They Work So Well Everywhere Else
Gun-grabber has meltdown, flees public affairs forum in anger
“Look the a**hole was talking about congress and our president,” a visibly agitated Coleman shot back, “not Kansas … so, you know, go s*** yourself.” [More]Today's Gun Rights Examiner exclusive shows more than a bit of projection going on as an anti who would control us shows he is utterly incapable of controlling himself--as seems to be so often the case. Plus the embedded video is pretty damn funny, so share this with any friends who could use a good laugh.
Home Alone
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No, Alan, No.
No, no, no. [Read]
Tell me this is all a misquote.
Look, I like you personally from the brief interactions we've had. I like the folks you work with. And I'm grateful you were big enough to put aside past differences and reach out to me on more than one occasion. Really.
But don't do this.
I'm telling you, SAF will be harmed like you won't believe. You won't be able to explain it away if you do.
I'm telling you as a friend. I know you have legislative insights I don't. But I have insights of my own, and I'm seeing a mood and a sentiment you must not be seeing, that you won't see in the halls of government, and that those giving you media coverage certainly know nothing about. Don't discount it.
No.
UPDATE: Workman gives the details.
Tell me this is all a misquote.
Look, I like you personally from the brief interactions we've had. I like the folks you work with. And I'm grateful you were big enough to put aside past differences and reach out to me on more than one occasion. Really.
But don't do this.
I'm telling you, SAF will be harmed like you won't believe. You won't be able to explain it away if you do.
I'm telling you as a friend. I know you have legislative insights I don't. But I have insights of my own, and I'm seeing a mood and a sentiment you must not be seeing, that you won't see in the halls of government, and that those giving you media coverage certainly know nothing about. Don't discount it.
No.
UPDATE: Workman gives the details.
Dance, Puppets, Dance!
Little wooden head, go play your part... [Read]
Mariobamanettes have descended onto the political stage in Oregon...
A Shotgun Approach
I'm glad Workman did this. That idiot Biden is going to get someone arrested or killed, and it's not like any of his "legitimate media" camp followers have either the knowledge or the inclination to correct the absolutely dangerous ignorance they're helping to spread. [Read]
A Real Liability
And the "Making Sure HIS Lifeboat Seat is Secured" Award Goes to...
...Hod Lipson with Cornell University, co-author of “Fabricated: The New World of 3D Printing”... [More]Way to go, Hod, that's the spirit! As long as you're taken care of, everybody else can sink!And you'll even be happy to point out those still floating, just to make sure!
By the way, nice dress.
[Via DMJ]
Stand and Fight
NRA's been producing some good and hard-hitting videos recently, sounding more and more like we happy SNBIers. This one deserves widespread viewing, imho.
A Distinguished Panel
To think the answer has been in front of us all this time....why the hell didn't we think of that?
I guess that's why they're an expert subcommittee and we're not!
The Hypocrite Act
"No man is above the law, and no man is below it." [More]Wanna bet?
Ed Stone shows even a relatively "good" state like Georgia has its share of elitist gun poltroons vying for "Only One" status.
Yeah, I'm sure current and former legislators are much more qualified, trained, worthy, clean, thrifty reverent and brave than you or I could ever hope to be. Oh, if only we, the fallen and the flawed, could be the paragons Calvin Hill presumes to be.
The Real Epidemic
Suicides [Read]
What, like in gun-free Japan?
To have the greatest effect here, you know who we'll need to disarm, right?
What, like in gun-free Japan?
To have the greatest effect here, you know who we'll need to disarm, right?
Common Sense Fixes
We demand, you bend over and take it. Oh, and we get to decide what's "common sense" from here on out. [Read]
The fix is in.
Makes perfect sense to us!
The fix is in.
Makes perfect sense to us!
Getting the Lead Out
What Whalen Thinks
Whalen thinks assault rifles should be abandoned, restricted to military and law-enforcement personnel, but beyond that he wants to maintain his rights to buy and keep guns. [More]Sorry, Whalen, but some don't go in for "animal murder" and see no reason why you should be allowed to own high-powered sniper weapons of mass destruction designed only for killing that go through police body armor and could shoot down a plane.
Find another sport.
All of these attacks against your preferences have already been used and will only increase. Besides which, as evidenced by your profound ignorance, a major part of the activism has come from evil black rifle owners and those who support all rights of gun owners, including yours. You're willing to throw them under the bus?
Do you see the problem yet, Whalen?
Polyphemus may have promised to eat you last, but eat you he most certainly will unless we all band together and drive a burning stake into his eye.
We're the Only Ones Doing Our Duty Enough
Meanwhile, all three deputies remain on regular duty. [More]And now, as Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story...
This Day in History: February 20
Whereas, it has pleased the Divine Providence to prosper the operations of His Majesty's arms in driving the rebel army out of this province; and WHEREAS it is His Majesty's most gracious wish to rescue his faithful and loyal subjects from the cruel tyranny under which they have groaned for several years, I have thought proper to issue this Proclamation, to invite all such faithful and loyal subjects to repair, without loss of time, with their arms and ten days provisions, to the Royal Standard now erected at Hillsborough, where they will meet with the most friendly reception. And I do hereby assure them that I am ready to concur with them in effectual measures for suppressing the remains of rebellion in this province, and for the re-establishment of good order and constitutional government. [More]
Tuesday, February 19, 2013
CSGV Adds Anti-White Racism to Misogyny
Here's an ongoing Twitter dialog with CSGV--the set up is, they're defending "training" that tells women to vomit urinate and tell attackers they're menstruating, and putting down anyone who suggests they ought to have other choices.
Get under their skin, which isn't hard, and their self-loathing inner racists quickly emerge.
Get under their skin, which isn't hard, and their self-loathing inner racists quickly emerge.
Baca gun permits for gifts report highlights pattern of hypocrisy and worse
“In fact, more than two dozen people who have given gifts or campaign contributions to the sheriff also have gun permits,” the report documents. “More than one out of every 10 permits issued to civilians went to people on Baca's gift list.” [More]Today's Gun Rights Examiner report notes a Gun Grinch whose campaign chest grew three sizes that day.
There Oughtta Be a Law!
Funny. The people I've seen talking this way didn't mention anything about prison... [Read]
[Via Hayden B]
Oregon Alert
PRO GUN BILL INTRODUCED, SCHRADER TO MEET WITH OBAMA ANTI-GUN ACTIVISTS [More]If you're from there, you need to be aware of this, and there's also an action item for you.
Matter of fact, if you're from there and you're not a member of Oregon Firearms Federation and already getting and forwarding these alerts,what the hell...?
Kevin Starrett is a seemingly inexhaustible rights machine, but I know he stretches himself every day on our behalf. You Beaver Staters should be thanking your lucky stars you have him standing guard, sounding alarms, rushing to the battlements and working untold hours and juggling a dozen or more legislative balls at once.
How about giving him a hand?
We're the Fauxnly Ones with Stones Enough
Don't tell me they had no inside help. [Read]
If there's a break in the case, it will be because the insider slips up and then breaks.
It does read like a well-made heist movie, doesn't it?
If there's a break in the case, it will be because the insider slips up and then breaks.
It does read like a well-made heist movie, doesn't it?
Almost There
I'm typing this while live on the air during a break in hour 3. AAR is currently the NUMBER TWO listened to show IN THE NATION right now in real time as being monitored minute by minute on the Talkstream live website. We are behind number one, Bill Cunningham and remained in the #2 spot during the entire 3 hour broadcast!!This is a HUGE accomplishment that almost defies words.
Emerging Majorities
That's what's being engineered, all right... [Read]
And for many, the concept of unalienable rights -- as opposed to government-bestowed privileges -- has never been something to even consider, let alone to strive to protect.
Ah yes: A Chicago consulting firm winning the future through education.
[Via Mack H]
And for many, the concept of unalienable rights -- as opposed to government-bestowed privileges -- has never been something to even consider, let alone to strive to protect.
Ah yes: A Chicago consulting firm winning the future through education.
[Via Mack H]
Prepping for Betrayal
Nothing New Under the Sun
Firearm Manufacturers Should Face Tobacco Industry-Like Senate Hearings [More]So they can become dirty, deadly and banned? Gee, where have we heard that before?
[Via lots of you who have been sending me various Frum-related links]
Secret Identities Exposed!
More problems with that 100% volunteered and privately paid for law-abiding gun owner registration list continue to emerge... [Read]
The Moral High Ground
“They’re trying to discredit me in some kind of way because I agreed with the gun deals that I pushed through,” he said. “We’re losing babies. And if the best they can do is come back and say, 'He shouldn’t have Big Bootie Freaks,’ then I said, ‘Hey, you shouldn’t have guns.” [More]You went full Mainor. You never go full Mainor.
As Long as They Want an Accounting...
Why Is Mexico Asking the U.S. Senate for a Registry of U.S. Gun Owners? [More]No doubt because they know it will please those sending U.S. plunder to them under the guise of aid.
How about we demand an immediate inspection and sourcing of all confiscated Mexican arms, not just the cherry-picked few they submit to advance the disarmament agenda? How about if we do a thorough audit on all the money, weapons, equipment and other tangible items sent to the Mexican government and its surrogates, and get a thorough accounting of exactly where everything is ending up?
How about if we also find out who saw nothing when a car being tracked crossed the border, and who ordered that? Notice how no one from "legitimate media" has the least bit of curiosity about pulling that thread to see what unravels?
[Via Bluesgal]
It Depends on What the Meaning of the Word "Pro" Is
Pro-Gun Lawmakers Are Open to Limits on Size of Magazines [More]That's simply not true. That position automatically disqualifies them from being so characterized.
Most Experts Agree
Not Just a Little Squeak - Pucker Up and Blow!
“It’s why we have call boxes; it’s why we have safe zones; it’s why we have the whistles — because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at. And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop a round at somebody,” Salazar said. [Read]
Where on earth do they find these utter morons?
Just Between Us Girls
Here it is. This is the video where I was asked to keep the Democrat proposals for the NY SAFE Act away from the public. [More]
I don't know how I missed this from a month ago, but you've gotta see it:
Why Buy the Cow if the Milk's Free?
Why bother with The New York Times beat reporter when Obama can go on “The View”? [More]No flowers...he never calls...What's the difference between "Legitimate Media" and a public toilet? A public toilet doesn't follow you around begging to be noticed after you've used it.
What, you "Authorized Journalist" media sluts thought he'd respect you in the morning? S'OK...I'm sure he'll take full advantage of you again the next time it's convenient and he's got nothing better lined up.
Comedy Gold line from this piece:
The president’s day-to-day policy development — on immigration, on guns — is almost totally opaque to the reporters trying to do a responsible job of covering it.
Presto-Change-O!
Eric the Magnificent is counting on it.
Dumb and Dumber
This seems to me like the same intentional error those who claim the U.S. is such a violent country make when they lump peaceable gun owners into the same mix as thugs. [Read]
Total Government Control
Yeah, it's like this. [Read]
Nobody knows anything, nobody knows for how long, and nobody is responsible.
Maybe resistance is a mistake.
Nobody knows anything, nobody knows for how long, and nobody is responsible.
Maybe resistance is a mistake.
This Day in History: February 19
He reached the fort and briefly laid siege to it on February19th by having his men build some "Quaker" cannons, then demanded the surrender of the fort. He threatened to blow the fort to splinters.
Maj. Maxwell knew that the cannons were fake and declined to surrender his fort. [More]
Monday, February 18, 2013
Riddle Me This
Holy Insurrection, Caped Crusader!What do you get when you cross aggressive government attempts to strip citizens of their Second Amendment rights with at least 65 million American gun owners, who have just bought roughly 65 million more guns in only the last four years? [More]
Chicago's top cop condemns gun owners for political activism
Actually, it would be fair to say McCarthy, who advocates measures that continue to guarantee the Windy City’s place as Murder Capital U.S.A., has no business being in any position of authority, and perhaps has no business being allowed outside of custodial care. [More]Today's Gun Rights Examiner commentary warns about a danger to himself and others on the loose.
Last Night's Armed American Radio Program
Another Scary Gun "On the Streets"
At that point, the victim was able to reach inside her glove box, pull out a pistol and point it at the suspect, police said.Damn bloodthirsty vigilante gun owner!
The suspect then ran away. [More]
Boys Will Be Boys?
"To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." [More]Maybe your kids do, buddy. You accept those first few examples as normal behavior, and how is it their taking things to the next level shocks you so?
This article brings up another beef of mine -- this business of "protecting" the identities of juveniles hardly serves the interests of public safety -- if there are a couple of proto-psychos living in my neighborhood, I'd like to know about it so I can exercise appropriate precautions. And that includes any twisted enough to throw rocks through windows, shoot BB guns at people's cars, hit people with sticks and set cats on fire.
"Your Public Servant"
Guess this moron never heard of the Streisand Effect...
Of course bigger fish than he have been caught in that net.
We're the Only Ones Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places Enough
The guard recounted how she "kind of got sucked into his world"... [More]
And he into hers, no doubt.
And he into hers, no doubt.
Don't Bank On It
Just Imagine!
“…but the Founder’s couldn’t have imagined more than muskets.” [Read]Bob Owens exposes an unimaginative lie that's become a widespread talking point the antis keep trying to inject into that "national conversation on guns."
Imagine that!
Guns Don't Kill People
Be interesting if somebody did a scientifically valid statistical analysis to test this ideological affiliation premise... [Read]
It Depends on What the Meaning of the Word "Effective" Is
What's missing is how many "illegal" buyers aren't complete morons like the one in their anecdote and just do things the old fashioned way. [Read]
No Surprise There
Keep listening to the cowardly call of backing "lesser of two evils" RINOs and being excoriated by those who sneer at principles. This is what you'll get. Every damn time. [Read]
Animal House
Granny Get Your Gun?
The grandmother said she had no idea the two men intended to rob the Dollar General store when she held them at gunpoint... [More]
Then what basis did she have to say "“I have to tell you, if they had started running from this property, I would have not even said ‘halt’” ?
Between that and her support for bans on semi-auto rifles, personal defense capacity magazines, de-facto registration and licensing, I think it's a mistake to hold her up as a good example of anything except a cantankerous old woman whose luck exceeded everything else in this situation.
[Via William T]
Sunday, February 17, 2013
No Compromise
But that will be tomorrow’s “conversation,” won’t it? [More]Russ Stewart has had a really well-reasoned op-ed published in the Duluth News Tribune.
Who is Jerry Thompson?
I can't seem to find anything out about the guy, and so far, he's not shown an inclination to come out of hiding.
Who is this Jerry Thompson? If he's going to represent himself a a 2A-defending gun owner with credibility for influencing elections, you'd think there'd be some trace of him somewhere.
Especially with all the way he is now showing up all over the internet, including all the news stories featuring him, from USA Today (a Gannett paper, natch) to the Guardian in the UK.
So if he's going to have this much influence, don't you think maybe one of the "Authorized Journalists" so quick to share his name might be inclined, on behalf of their readers, to ask who the hell this guy is?
As a side note, were I an Ohio FFL and he walked into my shop, I'd tell him I didn't want his business and to get out. And I'd also boycott any shop that knowingly sells to him after this, that is, assuming he's actually an active gun owner.
Who is this Jerry Thompson? If he's going to represent himself a a 2A-defending gun owner with credibility for influencing elections, you'd think there'd be some trace of him somewhere.
Especially with all the way he is now showing up all over the internet, including all the news stories featuring him, from USA Today (a Gannett paper, natch) to the Guardian in the UK.
So if he's going to have this much influence, don't you think maybe one of the "Authorized Journalists" so quick to share his name might be inclined, on behalf of their readers, to ask who the hell this guy is?
As a side note, were I an Ohio FFL and he walked into my shop, I'd tell him I didn't want his business and to get out. And I'd also boycott any shop that knowingly sells to him after this, that is, assuming he's actually an active gun owner.
We're the Only Ones Serious Enough
They were very serious. They had the body armor and the guns. [More]Well of course. That way, if you call them ignorant buckeyed thugs like they deserve, they can extract vengeance with impunity, not to mention think up a few charges if you survive the encounter.
Besides, what if it had been a marijuana sticker?
Are we really going to let the jackboots get away with going that route?
They already have, you know.
Because they're very serious. And they have body armor and guns.
[Via William T]
The Masks Keep Coming Off
According to the bill, "whoever intentionally sells, transports, or possesses any bullet that expands or flattens easily in the human body is guilty of a class H felony." [More]Nikiya Harris, Mandela Barnes, Evan Goyke and Fred Kessler, eh...?
I guess in their cases, the headline is misleading, because they've never concealed their contempt for non-Marxists. But it is interesting to see how the domestic enemies won't be satisfied until they get it all, and won't be satisfied then until they can wield that power unopposed and absolutely.
[Via DMJ]
A Taxing Proposition
This is illustrative on two counts: First, it shows how the damned antis will attack on every front, everywhere, and leave no stone unturned in their undisguised contempt for free people who choose to exercise their right to keep and bear arms. Second, it shows what mindless drones the traitoress Linda Sánchez has for supporting constituents, to back someone who squanders their resources on efforts like this that show she doesn't trust them, either. [Read]
Pull!
I was going to ask if these were also available for the civilian market, but after seeing the price tag, I have to agree with Gilda here...
[Via Jess]
[Via Jess]
Opposed by Bloomberg
Mr. Hardy urges us to look at "Debbie Halvorson, formerly rated A by NRA, and still a massive improvement over Jackson." [Read]
Thing is...
And the debate over what to do continues.
Thing is...
And the debate over what to do continues.
Good Letter
I don't give a damn about no "Only Ones" exemption -- matter of fact, that's the bill's only endearing feature, even (especially) if it was a screw-up. That said, these guys aren't just looking out for themselves here and do a fine job exposing the utter fraud Cuomo and his rubber-stampers pulled under the guise of necessity and emergency. That the "progressives" think that's just fine should tell us all we need to know about their ultimate designs. [Read]
[Via Francois A]
[Via Francois A]
Armed American Radio Tonight
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Saturday, February 16, 2013
Reese Update
As usual, Jeff Knox does a terrific job summarizing where the Reese case is today. [Read]
Fair warning: I'm going to become even more of a pest about bugging readers to share news links about their case and also to help with their defense fund, for which The Firearms Coalition has taken the lead.
Fair warning: I'm going to become even more of a pest about bugging readers to share news links about their case and also to help with their defense fund, for which The Firearms Coalition has taken the lead.
How is MoveOn.org gun owner ‘a proud defender of the Second Amendment’?
Since MoveOn.org evidently doesn’t welcome such a conversation on their video, I’ll do so here. I’ll send them a link to this column and invite Mr. Thompson to have his unedited say to address these questions, or to simply define how he defends the Second Amendment in his own words. [More]
Today's Gun Rights Examiner commentary invites "reasoned discourse." Feel free to pile on and help expose these frauds for what they are.
So Close... It's All Up to YOU
I introduced Gun Rights Examiner readers to the project last September.
I shared a powerful trailer of the work-in-progress last month.
I've been doing fundraising updates/appeals here on War on Guns throughout.
Look at how close they are to completion -- but the thing about Kickstarter fundraisers is, the entire amount must be raised or NOTHING will be. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Please don't let that happen. Please help push this over the top. The minimum pledge is a measly buck, but ask yourself if you can spare five or 10 or the cost of a box of ammo.
And ALL of us can spread the word, inform our gun-owning friends and urge them to help out/become force multipliers.
Please go here and contribute, and then help recruit more support.
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Diggin' in with Dayton
I'll be joining Dayton Vause at 9:00 Eastern/8:00 Central on Talk 101 (101.1FM), Panama City Beach FL.
If you're outside that listening area, you can catch the program on USTREAM.
If you're outside that listening area, you can catch the program on USTREAM.
Friday, February 15, 2013
Illegal Sheriff's exports reveal further justice double standards
“Call me cynical,” he added, “but if someone not in law enforcement went to these extremes to disguise what they were doing, that person would be indicted faster than you can say ‘ham sandwich.’” [More]Today's Gun Rights Examiner report gives yet another example of criminality by enforcers, and of privileges and immunities enjoyed by the elites in this, the supposed land of equality under the law.
We're the Only Ones Stomping Enough
Ah, the "monopoly of violence" in action. [More]
Comforting to know three "10-year veterans" find this acceptable, isn't it?
And that there are places where a person recording this could be charged with a crime...?
Comforting to know three "10-year veterans" find this acceptable, isn't it?
And that there are places where a person recording this could be charged with a crime...?
We're the Only Ones Treacly Enough
By the Numbers – T Minus 1 - Assaulted II
From Dead Patriot Films:
We’re very close to funding this campaign with only $20,000 to go!
Now, I can hear the pessimists out there saying that there is no way we can raise that type of money in less than 40 hours and I would normally agree, if we hadn’t of raised $27,000 in the same period of time during the last campaign. I also know that we have been running this campaign with fewer donors and five less days. Here are the numbers as of 9 AM PST on Friday:
Assaulted I Assaulted II
# of Backers 925 576
Amount Raised
Heading into the $43,000 $50,000
Last 2 Days
Our last two days of the first campaign, we raised $27,050 from 290. That averages out to $96.55 per backer.
If we take our current number of backers and subtract them from the first campaign backers, we have 349 MIA – there are actually more because we have large percentage of new backers. If those missing supporters came in at the current average of $87 per backer, we would raise $30,000 giving us a $10,000 cushion. What a potential to help us reach our goal.
It comes down to just three things that will determine if we're successful – returning backers, increased pledges and new donors.
If you backed the last campaign, please do so again. We’ve come so far in the production in 90-days and we just need a little more of your help to finish this important film. We hope your belief in the need to complete this film is greater now than when you first backed us.
For the new donors, we ask that you consider increasing your pledge. Many of already have, some by ten fold – thank you! Any increase made by 576 of you will make a huge difference.
Finally, encourage your friends to join us by matching your pledge. They’ll get some cool swag and the knowledge that they help all of us make this important film a reality.
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A National Day of Resistance...? [More]
Look, I don't mean to throw cold water on this idea, but I can't just pass this on with my endorsement for participating without pointing out not everyone is enamored with the group behind this effort.
Whether the complaint is legitimate or whether the complainer simply has an axe to grind is something I don't have time to investigate right now, and I am not taking sides, but I do think this is something that needs to be cleared up, especially before giving out your information and making donations.
It won't be the first time we've seen flags raised. And again, this group may be totally worthy of support, but with so many others needing help, we owe it to ourselves to verify things.
I invite people in the know to educate us all in comments.
Look, I don't mean to throw cold water on this idea, but I can't just pass this on with my endorsement for participating without pointing out not everyone is enamored with the group behind this effort.
Whether the complaint is legitimate or whether the complainer simply has an axe to grind is something I don't have time to investigate right now, and I am not taking sides, but I do think this is something that needs to be cleared up, especially before giving out your information and making donations.
It won't be the first time we've seen flags raised. And again, this group may be totally worthy of support, but with so many others needing help, we owe it to ourselves to verify things.
I invite people in the know to educate us all in comments.
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