UCE-1

 The agent and two terrorists had traveled all the way from Arizona, in two vehicles. [More]

If it quacks like a provocateur...

[Via Jess]

BREAKING NEWS: BATFU ACCUSES RED'S OF "HARASSMENT AND INTIMIDATION"

I've been sitting on some facts for a few days at the request of Ryan Horsley. BATFU had threatened him that he needed to cease all blogging and keep their agents and inspectors free from being photographed or observed, or they would go to the judge and file a complaint of harassment. Ryan was in a dilemma--he has been single-handedly bearing the burden of his defense against a fe(de)ral government with practically unlimited resources--yet if he continued to allow his persecutors to operate in the dark, that is where they would kill Red's.

The new complaint is calculated to be a death blow to Red's--both financially with additional legal expenses they cannot afford, and by giving the judge an excuse to side with thugs portraying themselves as victims.

Blogger doesn't give me the capability to present .pdf files, so I have converted the documents sent to the judge into jpegs:

"Exhibit A" is a print out of this entry from Red's Blog.

Note assumptions in the accusation--that BATFU now has authority to decide who is an "authorized journalist," that providing oversight of government activities and the identities of those responsible for abuse has "no legitimate purpose but to intimidate and harass," that the distinction between an inspector and an agent is not automatically understood by those outside the agency, and that the only opinion expressed that is cited for judicial cognizance comes from an anonymous comment poster--not from Ryan Horsley. In fact, there is no evidence that the comment in question was not made by a BATFU agent (oh, sorry, "inspector"?), employee, snitch or agent provocateur.

Note that the offending comment has been removed by Ryan. It said this:



This is clearly something Ryan had no control over, makes no specific threat, plus it expresses an opinion that, as much as they don't want to admit it, reflects a sentiment of the agency's creation. But presenting this is designed to prejudice the judge. That said, I too have deleted comments from this blog that I thought crossed a line that would erode the post's credibility or I simply thought was inappropriate.

I repeat my call for a rapid response team of "minuteman" volunteers to make themselves available via a phone tree to go to gun stores being audited, and audit/document/photograph the auditors. Don't let creatures of the shadows hide there--expose them to the light and make them live there--or cravenly slink back under the baseboards where they belong. You can also help by spreading the link to this post to fellow gun owners and letting them know what is going on. BATFU is relying on people remaining uninformed and apathetic.

A Snitch in Time

Prosecutors are demanding that Facebook hand over data that would confirm the identity of group members and page administrators — but Facebook says those records no longer exist, because it deleted them after it banned the organization as part of an August 2020 content moderation sweep. [More]

I don't get it. Was it the embedded provocateur's day off?

(Note I had to right-click and open the link incognito window to get past the WaPo paywall. You can get basically the same story from other sources.)

[Via Steve T] 

"Duped Again!"

It has now been 2 years since the inspection that revealed .4% clerical errors that the ATF deemed "willful" and decided to revoke our license after over 70 years. This case has tied up our court system and cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars, not to mention what we have suffered personally which has been nearly $90,000 in legal fees and continuous attacks on our character.

I'd say the wrong people's character is being attacked here.

I hope Ryan Horsley's lawyers make a point of letting the judge know that comments posted on blogs by anonymous sources are sometimes trolling, sometimes spam, and sometimes like "letters to the editor"--just because one appears does not imply agreement or sanction by the blogger, as evidenced by people posting disagreements with me on this blog. Non-approval of content does not disqualify a comment from remaining posted here, nor on any honest blog, because doing so would ruin a blogger's reputation for credibility. I would hope those citing a lone anonymous statement-- one that was not a direct threat to anyone but was nevertheless subsequently removed-- are forced to concede under oath that they have no knowledge of who left the comment they are using against Ryan and where their sympathies truly lie. Either that, or they do know, and it was one of theirs. I'd ask them flat out if they could prove that poster was not an agent provocateur.

And as long as BATFU and the US Attorney Deborah Ferguson operate under such devious and self-serving rules of engagement, it's time to start picking up chairs in this bar fight. So I'd also go after a deposition of Area Supervisor Linda Young with the purpose of determining if that apparent stain running down the backside and leg of her slacks is from an external or internal source. If it turns out to be the latter, I'd file a formal complaint with OSHA for workplace safety and sanitation violations that endanger the health and safety of my employees and customers, and demand that she be forbidden to enter my premises unless and until mitigating controls and procedures are put into place.

Contingency Plan

GET OFF THE BENCH. Build skills and connect with others in your area to prepare for the worst-case scenario. [More]

I just found out about these folks and can't claim to know any more about them than what you can see by following the link. I do note the FAQ says they are not "like a militia."

My standard caveat-- if you involve yourself with people "in your area" you don't really know, remember that and act accordingly. I'd be interested to see what they teach about the CI/provocateur potentials and how to manage risks.

[Via Matthew L]

Are You Talking to a Provocateur?

Or even just a compromised snitch? [More]

Be careful. If they're going to pick any fruit, let it be low-hanging.

I had an idea a few years back, essentially a certification that associates are not working for law enforcement in any capacity.  I was told by those I asked to review it that it wouldn't work because cops can lie.

There appear to be limits.

Where my idea was different is it involved having the assurance notarized, meaning the person making it would be providing identification to ensure he's who he said he was, and attesting to it on a notarized statement.  So anyone putting together a group of patriots for training and practice could have a notary show up at the meeting to witness and record signatures.

I still don't know if that would work, but would think, at a minimum, most snitches wouldn't know the law and what they could or could not formally do in that regard.  Those people might hesitate out of fear of setting themselves up on criminal charges if their statement were later proven false, meaning anyone who has to put if off is someone to be wary of.

Any lawyers care to weigh in?

[Via JM]

Four Strikes Against Him

Gun Rights Provocateur David Hogg Rejected By Four Colleges To Which He Applied [More]

But he presumes himself qualified to instruct adults and redefine the relationship between government and the people. By force.

The more these "Lord of the Flies" castaways reveal themselves, the more normal people see them for what they are and are repulsed.

[Via Neil W]

Eliminating the Middleman

Norfolk-based sailor used military discount to buy guns and resell them — sometimes to criminals [More]

Is it unfair to speculate about low-hanging fruit and to wonder if there might be a UBC-vested provocateur lurking in the background somewhere?

[Via Mack H]

Our Friends Across the Aisle?

 Son of Brooklyn Judge Is Arrested Over Role in Riot at Capitol [More]

But he's a registered Democrat?

[Via bondmen]

UPDATE: This post seems pretty sure he's a leftist provocateur.

UPDATES- It looks like this post is becoming an aggregator of sorts:

• WERE THOSE PIPEBOMBS MEANT AS DIVERSIONS?
• I Saw Provocateurs At The Capitol Riot On Jan. 6

[Via Michael G]

There's an Equation in Here Somewhere

Man Jailed After Police Find 3D Printed Gun And US Lawmaker Kill List [More]

Why do I automatically suspect Low-Hanging Fruit + Provocateur(s) = Agenda Advancing Headlines?

[Via bondmen]

The Outsiders

 One of the 11 men arrested carrying HUGE cache of semi-automatic weapons at Canadian border crossing hours before Trudeau's draconian declaration of emergency: Mounties admit they are NOT part of Freedom Convoy [More]

What ARE they part of, as in which enforcement agency orchestrated this, who was the provocateur, and how many embedded CIs are in the group?

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Tangentially-related UPDATE:

Despite the media’s best attempts to smear the participants as “racists,” “terrorists,” etc. (as they always do), the truckers and their supporters come from diverse working-class backgrounds. [More]

No one really believes that "workers of the world" crap is sincere, do they? Even after seeing how the majority of Antifa types are parasites?

[Via bondmen]

Close Enough for Government Work

At one point he asked if “ambushes” and “assassinations” would be more effective in southern states. [More]

Sure sounds like a provocateur/CI...

[Via Mack H]

Milwaukee Brewery Killings Highlight How Suppressed Information Enables Infringement

By hiding his identity until they’ve got their ducks lined up, and by ensuring his internet tracks have been swept to only release information supportive of the narrative being told by “the authorities,” our ability to glean public interest information, which is needed to be informed, self-governing citizens, is diminished and effectively deprived.  If our only source of that information is the government, disseminated and amplified through its media mouthpieces, our system becomes no more credible or any less manipulative and tyrannical than China’s or Iran’s. [More]

No "right-wing white nationalist", no "assault weapon," a "gun-free zone"... looks like this story's going to need to be downplayed until some low-hanging fruit who better fits the narrative can be inspired by a provocateur...

About that Right Wing Militia Threat...

Correction: I mean the federal agent provocateur threat... [More]

Not that this will stop the SPLC from stirring things up and smearing patriots for profit.

Vanderboegh clued us in on this insect almost two months ago.

Provocateur Troll: "Kill the governor!"

North Carolina Governor Bev Perdue, that is, in a comment left on today's GRE post...

A recurring troll may have gone too far this time (click image to enlarge):
Evil anti-defense fanatics trying to smear us as violent, and provocateurs trying to either pass themselves off as one of us or incite something are pretty much employing a tired old tactic, but that doesn't stop genius boy here. It's all he's got.

Thing is, I can't say for certain that he's not serious--can you? If he said this about the president, I would fully expect a Secret Service investigation.

And while I have not reported this to law enforcement, reporting it to WoG/GRE readers is what I do--if this somehow catches the attention of someone tasked with investigating terror threats, well, I guess they'll look into it. And I guess if they ask me about this, I'll have to show them all the countless other comments I've deleted, with dates, times and links, and let them know about other websites where someone with an identical MO has also left comments that make me believe they're from the same individual. Maybe with all those records to check, they'll be able to home in on this sick piece of refuse and identify him.

I imagine if someone wanted to contact Gov. Bev Perdue's office about this, they could do that here. And I'm sure if her investigators thought it worth following up on, they'd know who in the federal government to consult about the interstate nature of this cyberthreat.

A Convenient Excuse

A Speaker opposed to pro-rights legislation tells a tale of something that never quite happened: an attempted “intimidation,” by omitting key facts and warping the rest. And uses that to rationalize killing the legislation. [More]

And that way, everyone can be punished for an act that may even have been done with that in mind.  What kind of political fraud would do that?

Think race hoax and sex hoax. Plus, by allowing certain comments, you can be tarred with a provocateur's brush.

As for those who leave comments advocating criminal violence, Blogger does not give users the ability to do detailed tracking, but the way I've figured it in the past, if it rises to a level of credible threat, the authorities can do their thing if so inclined.

Useful Idiots Pointing Pistols at Groins Play into Provocateur Hands

No doubt there are probably a few immature useful idiots who identify themselves as being opponents of “gun control,” but the benefit of anonymity also means some of the posers could literally be that, provocateurs out there trying to make gun owners look like morons in order to influence public opinion to support disarmament edicts. [More]

If you know anybody who is this immature and moronic, your best course of action is to stop knowing him.

Ode to Emma Gee

Ordinarily, I adhere to a "Don't Feed the Trolls" philosophy. I put a lot of work into this site and I'll not allow my goals to be derailed or hijacked, particularly by malevolent and insignificant vandals seeking attention and a forum to promote their pathological hatred for those who aren't losers like they know themselves to be.

But in this case, I'll make an exception. This one gets the spotlight.

Meet Emma Gee, racist, foul-mouthed coward, possible agent provocateur/informer, probable anti-gunner, and definite mental/emotional defective.

I've run into this creature before, most recently as it sprayed its waste on KeepAndBearArms.com Newslinks comments, where it called me a...I think it was "treasonous dolt." I invited it to contact me, because if I were going to call someone a name I wouldn't be so unmanly as to hide and do it from the shadows, but I guess talk is cheap when you think you can get away with anything anonymously.

But it seems Emma Gee couldn't resist the temptation to try and foul WarOnGuns comments as well--it's afraid to contact me directly, but has convinced itself that indirect strikes are safe.

In its first post [LANGUAGE WARNING], it made generalized death wishes for BATFU agents, as well as obscene and racist comments.

But its second post is where a legal line has most probably been crossed.

WarOnGuns regulars will recall US Marshal Dave Meyer warned not only me, but also people who comment on this site, against violating the Court Security Improvement Act of 2007. And you'll recall the reason Marshal Dave was brought in was because BATFU claimed they felt threatened.

One can hardly argue that specifically calling for the execution of a sitting judge by name is something the feds are going to take lying down. And while Emma Gee did not reveal any personal information about the judge, so this particular act may not come into play, it's evident the intent was "to threaten, intimidate, or incite the commission of a crime of violence against that covered official."

While I don't off-hand know the law that was broken, you can be sure one was--if nothing else, some domestic terrorism Homeland Security provision. These people protect their own and they play hardball. Remember, Rick Stanley was convicted of attempting to "influence a public official" merely for speculating to the judges in his case about being arrested.

Plus, as I've demonstrated time and again, this site is routinely monitored by visitors from the DOJ. Recall the post from a while back where I found a website specifically endorsing the violent rape and murder of an ATF agent by name. I have reason to believe that was/is being investigated. While the offshore nature of that site may make tracing to the originator more problematic, we're talking about a government with near unlimited resources to throw at the investigation--and I doubt Emma Gee is posting both here and at KABA using such layered masking. But the sentiments are so similar, I can't help but wonder if there's a connection.

I'm sure the government can find out. After all, they can access my Site Meter, Stat Counter and Go Stats visitor records. I'm no computer tech, but I'm also sure that's just the tip of the iceberg for them to start peeling layers back on--and remember, Blogspots are provided by Google--a company that even cooperates with the Chicoms--I'm sure they'll have all kinds of records that can be used as evidence.

Well, you got the attention you wanted, troll. I even stopped everything I was doing just for you. And everybody's looking at you. Some, I wouldn't want looking at me.

Feel free to continue adding all the comments you like--I'm sure they'll help in the triangulation that's probably going on right now. Don't worry, though--I won't report you. I don't have to. You've already reported yourself.

As I've stated before, I do things in the light. When you know you're being scrutinized, as I've documented before, it would be stupid not to--my best protection is in doing just what I'm doing. I just hope they can get everything they need from the servers and don't see fit to impound my computer.

But Emma Gee: I really would not want to be you right now.

Name That Provocateur

 Whitmer Kidnap Plot Defendant Demands Info on the DOZEN FBI Informants and Paid 'Snitches' Involved [More]

Where did he ever get the idea that being confronted with witnesses was a thing...?

[Via Michael G]

'Violence Erupted'

Leave it to the New York Daily News to shield fellow subversives and blame "far-right provocateur[s]. [More]

[Via Michael G]