Wednesday, August 09, 2006

Q&A III

I'm working on it.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, see Part I and Part II.

If you do, patience. I should finish it tonight and post tomorrow morning.

There have been some pretty good comments posted so far. Thanks to those of you who have contributed.
Posted by David Codrea at 8/09/2006 10:33:00 AM

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

David,

I am compelled to point out, again, that 99% of the comments so far are citing writings and opinions from the 1600's - 1800's

I of course believe in the argument for the current conflict of laws and the need for SCOTUS to resolve the dispparity BUT, I am more pursuaded by the argument that the state having amassed power will resist relinquishing that power.

I still have not seen an argument that supports "the fact" of the second today.

And when people advance the "80 million gun owners, all we need to do is stand up", well yeah, that would be great. 1 million would be great, 500,000 would probably work but apparently by objective observation, gun owners (for the most part) buy in to the "hunting and target practice", "reasonable restriction", "common sense gun laws", "No one needs an assault rifle" or "advocating registration".


It appears that most gun owners are comfortable. Organizing serious resistance and civil disobediance and forcing the issue en mass is a fantasy. It's like hearding ants. IT AINT HAPPENING!

Again, maybe we need to seriously shame gunowners.

Islam is comming give up you guns. China is comming, they are reasonable business people, you don't need a gun, we're from the government, we're here to help.

And of course, Machiavelli said the good prince rules the people by the use of "the enemy within and the enemy without". Can we critically evaluate the state of hysteria in the U.S. with the (arguable) aim to disarm the population.

And again, I believe the NRA (yeah, I'm a life member but they piss me off!) and other gun groups are just in the non profit business and compromise our rights downward every year. Maybe they are the enemy too?

AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE THE CENTER OF THE MOVE TO HAVING TO ASK PERMISSION instead of being militant on "shall not be infringed".......they trade the euphoria of politics and power to sell us out predictably.....maybe we shoould call a spade a spade and say in reality they have become........moles!

I hate to be repetitive but we are becoming a nation of "girls". We may already be a nation of "girls" (I am using the term "Girls" euphemmistically, I love girls and I am married to one and I have a daughter but "My" girls have more sense and guts than the voter pool and, in my estimation, most second amendment believers). We have become numbers, we are Not Free Men. We are at a crossroads.

Where is the testosterone? Are we living in france?

Just wanted to pass on my observations so far.

Thanks again.

Dave Licht

8/10/2006 4:06 AM
David Codrea said...

You'll notice I haven't disagreed with anything you've said...

8/10/2006 9:06 AM
Anonymous said...

David,

I'm not trying or hoping to be right - I want to move the argument forward by defining reality and moving beyond the romance, fantasy and fund raising arenas.

8/10/2006 11:11 AM
E. David Quammen said...

How about a 2003 quote from a Ninth Circuit Court Judge?

...Alex Kozinski, a Federal Appeals Judge, (Ninth Circuit), and an immigrant from Eastern Europe, warned in 2003, "the simple truth -- born of experience -- is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people."

"The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do," Judge Kozinski noted. "But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."

The doomsday provision
Oct 19, 2005
by John Stossel

And a direct court case quotation;

"The maintenance of the right to bear arms is a most essential one to every free people and should not be whittled down by technical constructions."

- State vs. Kerner, 181 N.C. 574, 107 S.E. 222, at 224 (1921)

8/11/2006 6:40 AM

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