The episode involves a serial killer of blonde buxom women who had implants. When Grace's boss tells her that the public needs to be informed, Grace goes into a tirade about how people will start carrying guns and that we don't need that.Like most network garbage, I've never seen the show. I gathered from the email and confirmed by doing a search that Holly Hunter's pretend character plays a cop. Amazing, how fictional heroes always seem to be at the right place at the right time to save the day.
Later her own sister tries to take one of Grace's spare guns and is caught, she goes into another tirade, first saying how her (the sister) hates guns, and did she know anything about them. That the gun was loaded, and did she know about the safety, where it was, and how to unload a firearm...that she would only get herself killed.
Grace then tells her that she is not to buy a gun either. The sister apologizes.
Of course she kills the serial killer...with her gun....as a member of the Only Ones.
Now it's just TV, because as you and I know, the rank and file cops, approve of an armed citizenry. The problem is the dumbed down electorate (by government schools and a leftwing media) are unaware of this factoid.
Just like real life, right?
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Like I have always said: "if we should get out republic back from the Marxist. One of the first things we need to do is have military trials for the traders in the media."
When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...
Being from Oklahoma City where the show is based, I can't watch it anyway. The show isn't actually filmed here, it is filmed in LA. I think I watched 3 episodes before I just couldn't stand it any more. None of the details are right. It is a cop show and they even got the cop cars wrong. "Grace" is a booze swilling 4'11" cop who spends most of the show throwing the cat around. No one should take any life advice from her, much less about proper gun safety since she is routinely hammered while carrying.
But of the 3 episodes I did watch my favorite part was when Grace and her partner were arresting some bad guy and the partner is doing the pat down. He finds a small folding knife on the guy, quickly throws it down and gets all panicky, "Illegal knife!" he announces. The funny thing, to me at least, is that you can't swing a dead cat in this town without hitting some guy with a knife clipped to his pocket. But in LA I guess, any knife is "illegal" because its scary. Glad they didn't arrest the guy in the kitchen.
I like the character, Grace Hanadarko. Holly Hunter is doing great work with her, adding dozens of little character touches in every show.
I like the fantasy aspect, and I have a very serious soft spot for redemption stories.
But when the gun stuff came on last night I started screaming curses at a character I love. I could barely tolerate finishing that episode, hoping Grace would redeem herself, realizing the mortal insult she paid her sister and her sister's friends. She never did.
She mocked her sister's fears, knowing details of the case that had been withheld from the press basically put her sister off the victim list -- but of course her sister had no way to know those things. Grace was privileged.
Grace is, after all, just another Only One, who holds every citizen without a badge in contempt.
Damn them. Damn them to hell. I liked the show, and liked Grace, and now I don't know that I can continue to watch her.
I stopped watching The Shield for similar reasons. I was having a lot of fun watching rogue Only Ones going down.
Then they had an episode where an elderly woman was raped twice, and the police could do nothing -- so the woman bought herself a gun so she'd have a chance.
And one of the "good" cops on the show found it, and took it away from her, leaving her defenseless.
I can't remember whether she was raped again before the cops caught the bad guy or not.
Didn't care, really; even the "good" cops were still bad.
I've never been able to sit through another episode.
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There was one show, though, and dammit, I can't remember what it was. Didn't even last a whole season.
There was a team of home invaders going around, killing the men and raping the women. The cops figured out that their next victims would be the family of a man dying of cancer, and set up in the house to catch them.
And they almost missed the bad guys, because the bad guys were already in the house, hiding in the attic.
When they came down into the house, cancer man took his shotgun out of his closet and blew them away. The home owner basically dare the cops to arrest him, because after all, he was going to be dead in a few weeks anyway.
But that was it. Nobody congratulated him. Nobody backed him up. It was clear they were struggling not to arrest him.
The citizens who can have guns and use them are those who are going to die anyway.
Aargh. "It was clear the cops were struggling with their consciences over not arresting him. The only citizens who can have guns are those who are going to die anyway."
Dang last second thoughts....
I blogged about this over at my place, even less coherently than I have here.
Dammit, I was a fan. And they've lost me.
I used to love "The Equalizer," starring Edward Woodward ("Breaker Morant") UNTIL the episode in which he, the NYC-based Jaguar-driving GUN-carrying ex-intelligence operative who acted as paladin to save the innocent from the evil, criticized the United States for "allowing" gun ownership. Because 14-year-olds in gun-free New York City were killing each other. Never watched a minute of the show ever again. Wrote the network.
There was an episode in which he had to go gunless, at a diplomatic dinner or something. Of course a waiter was a terrorist plant and smuggled a gun in to kidnap a dignitary. This anti-gun hero unscrewed the coat hook from a bathroom stall and used it as a punch-dagger on a bad guy.
So there you go. Who NEEDS a gun to take care of business, huh? But in EVERY OTHER EPISODE, it was bullets or the threat of bullets that saved the innocent victims.
The studios that churn out this crap have ARMED guards, don't they?
I hate a Greek named Hypocrisy.
Stopped watching network TV shows 15 years ago. Last year discovered "Jericho". Best TV show I've ever seen.
Jerico and Firefly are the only two shows on that have been worth watching in years. They both had a large fan base and good numbers. They were both canceled for the same reason.
They taught self reliance and well earned mistrust of the government. They also committed the cardinal sin of showing how firearms can and should be used to protect the average person.
It didn't help them any that they had some doses of morality thrown in for good measure.
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"Saving Grace" was not sold to Television with the idea of educating anyone. The show comes into your living room to sell you beer, tampons, the latest patent medicine, or beauty product. The week the show stops selling the required quota of merchandise it will be gone and forgotten.
I’ve been in the criminal justice system since 1971, and I refuse to watch “cop shows”. CSI Miami, CSI New York, CSI Las Vegas, CSI Bum F**k, Egypt, Law & Order, COPS, Dukes of Hazard, … ad nauseum All these fictional series, unfortunately, have benighted believers who actually think the shows depict correct and acceptable methods of police work.
I actually had a city alderman tell me, during a city council meeting, that he couldn’t understand why I didn’t shoot a particular individual because; “I saw them do it on Miami Vice.”
Sadly, many people believe the fiction they see on Television represents appropriate solutions to real world problems, and if Grace, Bruce, Barrack, or Sasquash tells them a gun isn’t the answer, they believe the message.
It's all subtle and not-so-subtle propaganda...Over the years that have likely been hundreds of thousands or perhaps over a million instances of VIDEO IMAGES depicting the VIOLENT USE or the MISUSE of firearms. The ONLY "acceptable use" is for cops shooting "bad guys". What message does that send? When was the last time you saw a responsible CITIZEN use a gun in self-defense on TV? Civilians stop over 2 million crimes EACH YEAR - far more than the police, but how often is this reported or depicted on fictional TV?
anon, the last time I saw it was Julia Roberts in "Sleeping with the Enemy".
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